TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

[DaBackpack]

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So sorry roundbox, I was trying to get you sacrificed last night.

[DaBackpack]

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I realized that in the last ~30 minutes of the phase yesterday, that I was the most widely town-read person in the game, which is bad for me because obviously I don't want to be nightkilled. So at that time, I started spewing some bullshit about how I had roundbox as "lock clear" after having a cryptic conversation with him.

I was -hoping- that the wolves would notice that I was trying to expose roundbox as a PR and would attempt to kill him in the night instead of me.

I was still unsure about roundbox at the time --- he was a ??? for me. So having him die in the night after confirming that he wasn't a PR would make the game easier for me.

However, Charu flipped Cop, and my hate-boner began. I knew blind was going to be lynched this phase, but still, if roundbox could be nightkilled, that would make my life easier.

Unfortunately, the wolves did not notice my softs, and killed Manti instead.

Luckily, blind started gunning for roundbox almost immediately, which clears up roundbox in my mind.

[Gradiant]

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Softing in that way is really genius, though kinda ballsy since only one person would be able to tell. Works out here though

[DaBackpack]

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I thought I would take this phase to mess around with blind and see if he could cough up some more information that would help us succeed in subsequent phases after his lynch.

In particular, ---- who was blind gunning for in LYLO, and who would support him and also gun for that target.

This is just conjecture at this point, but a few people have fit that bill. In particular, I have OpKiller as the most likely second wolf here.

[FreezinIce]

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LOL @ that doctor save.

..........why

[DaBackpack]

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So because you killed like Erika in that one umineko work that i forget the name of, you couldnt claim detective.

its amazing, i actually read that rule AND that instance, but didnt make the connection and passed it up

exactly

[DaBackpack]

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Of course, it doesn't really even matter anyway, since I'm explaining this anyway.

blind is not the vigilante.

[FreezinIce]

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So because you killed like Erika in that one umineko work that i forget the name of, you couldnt claim detective.

its amazing, i actually read that rule AND that instance, but didnt make the connection and passed it up

[DaBackpack]

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I believe we are in LYLO, meaning that the wolves need only one mislynch in order to win the game, barring some Doctor/Vigi shenanigans.

I find it highly unlikely that a wolf would push for his own partner to be lynched in what could potentially be the final phase of the game.

Meaning, that roundbox is almost certainly not a wolf here. Also meaning that I could soft to him, which would give him something to think about even if he couldn't physically be present in the thread.

[FreezinIce]

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close, but no cigar i guess

[FreezinIce]

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oh

[DaBackpack]

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Unfortunately, the Doctor protected the "wrong person", meaning that there wasn't a vigi kill on a wolf in the night.

Which is fine, because it was probably the safest option, but I was hoping that the Doctor would realize what was actually happening and would have not saved who he saved.

[DaBackpack]

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In retrospect, lynching Charu turned out to be the best mislynch available for us, since it allowed us to lock down the setup.

The setup is DD CC VV T, just as blind says.

Also meaning that there cannot be two vigilantes.

[FreezinIce]

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As for roundbox's reply, I pretty much roughly knew of that concept already having played a lot of chess when I was in middle and high school. A quick google search confirmed my thoughts.

His statement of "turning around the chessboard" is just slang for putting yourself in you opponents shoes to try to figure out why they would do things that make no sense to you.

I think its safe to say that he understood DBP's meaning with his message and was replying that once the mechanically outed wolves are dead, town can get to work on finding the last wolf thats hiding

[DaBackpack]

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sorry that took so long to type even for a summary that was longer than i was going for

I'm actually quite impressed that you were able to reason this much, very good, very good

You're on the right track, but let me explain what the "Detective's Proclamation" means in this context

The Detective has the ability to perform a number of functions in the Umineko world --- inspect corpses, collect all necessary evidence, etc.

The Detective, at the beginning of each game, makes the claim that they are indeed taking the role of Detective. This grants them a number of unique, special abilities, but prevents exactly one set of actions.

According to the Knox Decalogue of Detective Fiction:

The detective himself, or one of the official investigators, should never turn out to be the culprit.

Meaning --- that if somebody has committed murder in the game, they cannot be the Detective.