TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

u can honestly say 'reacting to what's happening' when he immediately joined you on a wagon with raeko/charu at the start of this phase like it was some reactionary trigger pull instead of something coordinated?

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Late response but I was talking about charu

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

Just to be clear. I trust my village.

Sunfan

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

#How I feel with a song

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

I'm thinking at writing a book about someone who dedicated their entire life helping others only to get shot by the person they helped.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

Oh look we're back to square one. Can you at least, try to consider other people? If it helps, do what I'm doing and disregard the team for now and just focus on one person. We really need a correct lynch today and aside from maybe sunfan, I'm not sure those people are it.

I currently have 539 posts. I had time to talk about everyone, make my own conclusions and decide a stance. I'm just forever waiting for someone to join in. I'm against the raeko lynch because I believe I can read her right.

Did you beleive Shado was a PR before his flip?

I already have a hard time reading Shado as town properly. I don't have any preconceptions about how his PR game works. So, no. I don't know at all. It's still a viable option. I also think he got killed to frame raeko because Shado said to lynch either inDheart or Raeko and got NK'd. I believe it's the same as in Classic's Man when AA got NK'd. Shado got framed and could never really get out of his game. I think raeko is the victim in this game.

See I have a similar thinking that wolves don't always target the same person. But I feel like at some point, this is going to happen and we're gonna get fucked for it.

If you look at D0, Sunfan/Litodude/Charu are splitting as you said.
If you look at D1, Sunfan/Litodude/Charu are all on the same wagon.
If you look at the counterwagon, it's Charu.
I don't think it's a coincidence.

As with your wolf reads, I don't think it's a good idea to hold onto your town reads too much either. Someone can play exceptionally for a day and complete dogshit the next. If you don't mind me asking how did we mindmeld d0?

I agree with you. I think it's currently happening for roundbox/YoshL and maybe you because as you said you got in this game reluctantly. Moving on..

Look at this post by choof which is you now technically speaking.

well that wagon was one of the most retarded things I've seen in a game of mafia/twg whatever you want to call it amongst the many sites that I've played in but holy fucking shit I did not see where that wagon came from. every single one of you need to get a follow up with your primary care physician to make sure you actually aren't all clinically retarded

I did quick skims over most of the day and then parsed eod pretty heavily

reads, roughly in order from town to scum:

townie
freezin - OKAY BOYS ARE YOU READY FOR THE FLIP FLOP. okay I went back and looked at the sunfan freezin shenanigans that had happened for the better part of the day and hoo boy, freezin looks pretty good. sure, I thought the CHAOS vote and the subsequent appeasement to yoshl was pretty fucking bad but his defense with sunfan felt really good, tone was towny and he was going hard to defend himself. it really sounds like he's a town that knows he fucked up and doesn't want to die because of it. not only that, but he pinged out sunfan on quite a few things that basically required me to look into their banter more heavily. NOT TO MENTION the fucking town spew he did at EOD. I honestly don't give a shit that it was predrafted in notepad.

roundbox - really liked his numbered posts, was lowkey hoping for one on me tho! but anyway the fact that he went back and heavily looked at the thread is towny to me. I mostly agree with his reads, except for the read on haku (which at that point in time ofc didn't account for what haku's later posts). mindmelding on his statement to litodude about blue hunting, hate that shit.

haku - yeah, haku did some really dumb shit early on in the game and I'm having a mental conniption fit that I can't put into words about his entrance but basically he did really bad for a short period of time and then started being a (relatively) normal player for the rest of the day. the banter after yoshl and haku both calmed down felt like it was t/t imo. his multi-quote posts were good. I don't think he's a policy lynch any longer. loved the responses he got from saying we should cfd sunfan lmao.

gradiant/shadowolfe - I liked gradiant's entrance, not the printy boy bullshit but the ping he had on inDheart along with the paranoia he had about sunfan trying to be a "friend." he went pretty hard on freezin for a brief moment and I liked that a lot, felt like it was a real attempt to get information. the frustration seemed real as well. goddamn he actually went hard as hell on freezin lol rereading these posts are great. and then shadowolfe replaced in. his entrance was good too, the vote on lightknight was solid. his post on sunfan was pretty good.

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litodude - playing super analytically and he's said that he approaches games as a new scenario and tries to get rid of meta or whatever he phrased it as. I like the approach but to me it's inherent null because there's so much content about the setup, also the blue hunting which I don't like at all, at least when it's public. however, I think that wolf litodude would be smart enough to keep the blue hunting to himself. but apparently he's bad at it because he was blue hunting and started the wagon on the mother fucking TRACKER. I'm keeping him null and at arm's length.

charu - I have no idea how to read charu accurately, someone will need to coach me.

raeko- not enough data to go off of, although I did like raeko's entrance and the point she made about lynching inactives was really good and I adamantly believe that she is right and that it happened with tokzic.

sunfan - I initially thought that you were a strong town player but I read through a lot of the freezin/sunfan banter and your refutations seemed weaker and they had less immediacy. however, I still think there was enough content from you to warrant one more day.

wolf

indheart - literal white noise, he has like three posts that are long enough to warrant opening them in another tab while isoing. literaly the only decent post he made was the one about yoshl's "slip" which I don't think is a slip in the first place.

Consider that inDheart is officially out of the picture now. He has exactly Sunfan/Litodude/Charu as well (and raeko). I'm telling you that I believe raeko is clear and that the rest of his calls are really good to the point that I trust him.

I feel you had a similar problem the previous game. All I can really say is don't get too frustrated if people aren't listening to your ideas. As long as you're alive (and since you're so "unkillable" or whatever) one of two things will happen: people will lend you credibility, or think you're a wolf cause you haven't died.

I'm getting frustrated because the largest portion of activity in this game has been with them. The reason why nothing else is happening is because "the rest of my town pile" needs to regroup. I'm talking about you/roundbox/YoshL. If you vote with me just this one phase, you're going to change the game for sure.

Haku still being stubborn as fuck. I really don't want to go back to see what he means that sunfan/charu/lito "solved" each other but I'll do it tmrw or something.

Just keep in mind that I'm stubborn for a reason. I do chaos for a reason. All my actions are centered over this one idea that keeps getting ignored. That should be super strange for everyone. I'm tired of writing the same things all the time.

roundbox's analysis on #3484: interesting approach to gauging wolves. I'm a little confused why you ended up doing this ++- jargon when you could have just put + instead, kinda threw me off. This post is also kind of weird because you are basically taking Shado's posts as always correct as town, when town can have faulty analysis. You're playing a game of telephone with basically indirect reads off of what Shado had to say and I don't really like that.

We're mindmelding on that.

Other questions?

[Wineandbread]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

I'm gonna relink my post cause I had some directed questions/comments in it http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=3689

Now that I'm doing these for like the 12th time in a row or whatever from substituting in I feel maybe I shouldn't put questions in multiquote blocks cause all they're really there to do are to help me put my feet in the water

But I'm done using my brain for today, gonna do something easy

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

You should try to lynch inside of Hakulyte/Sunfan/Litodude/Charu.

You don't want me to whine another phase about Sunfan/Litodude/Charu.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

I'm trying to establish that other PRs may exist to get them to stop talking about a definitive IC. I won't say anything more on the topic

That's fair. I can't see former choof being a wolf anyway.

[Wineandbread]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

The wolves know the PR roles, if you assume something, it's going to be used against you.

I'm trying to establish that other PRs may exist to get them to stop talking about a definitive IC. I won't say anything more on the topic

[Litodude]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

Aka

Where's the agenda. Where's the drive. It looks like he's just reacting to what's happening and doesn't know where to go aka he's lost and trying to solve people aka not something a scum would do

u can honestly say 'reacting to what's happening' when he immediately joined you on a wagon with raeko/charu at the start of this phase like it was some reactionary trigger pull instead of something coordinated?

yaokbuddy.gif

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

Aka

Where's the agenda. Where's the drive. It looks like he's just reacting to what's happening and doesn't know where to go aka he's lost and trying to solve people aka not something a scum would do

I agree with the premise and the conclusion

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

I'm not pr hunting but w/e

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

This guy may be a PR, let's kill him as town.

?????

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

haku being the IC is a POSSIBILITY in which case i said at the start today VOTE FOR HIM so we force a flip.

haku being a WOLF is a HIGHER possibility with raeko/freezin.

haku being a SHITTY CHAOS TOWN is ALSO a possibility, and is BANNED FROM EVERYTHING FOREVER.

i'm ok with the last two 50/50, as i said in my previous post.

Are you serious?

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

Aka

Where's the agenda. Where's the drive. It looks like he's just reacting to what's happening and doesn't know where to go aka he's lost and trying to solve people aka not something a scum would do