TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[thesunfan]

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Yoshls posts rly suck regardless of what hes got going on with osu.
I feel like I know what he would be saying to Freezin if it was Freezin doing this

[FreezinIce]

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k my post is going to be 2 parts

first part is my personal reasons why i cleared mello and im defending her so much even though ill probably look worse no matter how she flips.

2nd part is evidence from her play that should cause you to pause and consider if this is really the best idea.


HERES THE FIRST PART:

i thought raeko was a mislynch yesterday but if you asked me for reasons why i wouldnt have been able to quantify it. And then we have the sunfan L-1 wagon. for a long time i kept this in my head as an important bit of info (just like all wagons 4 votes and above can be mined for information) but it wasnt till this post:

sunfans wagon at beginning of the day though makes me feel better about mello in a way that i cant explain atm

and this follow up:

do you think there was any wolves on your wagon? Do you think there was only one?

you not getting hammered from that is a whole other bottle of wine.

im leaning towards no wolves on the wagon, and if thats true more likely than not your a wolf.

that i really started to entertain the fact that raeko and everyone else on the wagon was town but couldnt decide if sunfan was town or scum. now obviously i believe im playing with scumfan and no wolf showed up to hammer him because of that. obviously thats one possiblity of many but its the possibility i choose to subscribe to. i think the wolves in the game are massive fucking pansies who wouldnt dare to stick their neck out like that in a yolo play. but less important than my implication of sunfan (because thats debatable) is my clearing of mello.

my second point is obviously the complete and utter lack of a viable counterwagon and nobody really pressuring anyone other than sunfan at the beginning of the day. it felt like everyone settled on raeko and kind of dicked the rest of the day away pushing around their "2nd place scums." i dont fucking care how airtight of a case you "think" you have on raeko, i think 2 wolves bus their partner this hard exactly 0% of the time. i say two wolves because its painfully obvious thats what i would have to believe because my top towns were the only ones even entertaining voting outside of raeko it seems (haku, wab and mello defending herself).

seriously???

(part 2 to come)

[Wineandbread]

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fuck I forgot to respond to the other quotes

@mellon: it's a bit lazy to say "the whole rb post" but if you read my post earlier, I don't like your interactions with Haku. Reading the beginning of the day is making me rethink a bit though

@Shado: ahoy

[AragakiAyase]

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Votes from post 3090 to post 4359
Night in 0:42:35
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- mellonxcollie -- YoshL (52), roundbox (68), thesunfan (112)
• 2 -- thesunfan -- FreezinIce (160), mellonxcollie (79)
• 1 -- Charu -- Charu (195)
• 1 -- YoshL -- Wineandbread (28)
• 2 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (395), Litodude (176)

[thesunfan]

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Charu plz

[Hakulyte]

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what if charu/raeko are both town tho. :v

[Litodude]

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unovote

[Wineandbread]

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OK then what has you so convinced?

Hey guys this is my deathpost and I'm still caught up here for some reason blah blah blah dicks butts and all that jazz

@wine

if raeko is town, freezin/charu/rbx are my suspects

it doesn't make sense for freezin/charu to wagon on suns d2

it makes sense for haku to, because he's dumb

it makes sense for raeko cuz feelings

the current wagon on raeko:
yoshl is tunneled (didn't post his thoughts)
suns is revenge vote (i didn't read his long ass post)
rbx is...dunno (didn't read his long ass post either)

i think yoshl's town
i think suns is town
i think you're town

i think charu wagon'd onto my vote constantly until i started shit-voting and he's voting for himself
i think freezin is sus
idk what to think about rbx but defending charu is sus to me

I think you should read rb's post, it's pretty good.

I share roundbox's view on charu here cause of reasons mentioned before about him taking the time to address and understand Haku this game.
Freezin.. I think he's kind of a wild card. It will really fall on the lynch today. If mellon does end up getting lynched and she's town, he looks way better to me. I still have him null+ range though so w/e

[Charu]

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charu
if it kitbs between u and raeko would u be okay w/ that

...Well if it makes Haku finally think, then yes.

Won't solve the "main suspect" problem though, but I really couldn't care less.

[roundbox]

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I would much rather lynch raeko today over yoshl because I think raeko>yoshl is a w>w connection

[Wineandbread]

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By "backing off", I meant "telling other people to back off".

[Wineandbread]

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Ok so looking back at beginning of today:

mellon feels its yoshl/sunfan/x (i think the yoshl suspicion came from his push on her at eod)
yoshl immediately calls mellon out again (iirc the logic was that mellon defending ind without 'evidence' was wolfy because that allows her to do a 'told ya so')
freezin still doesn't believe it
yoshl/mellon have some bants (mellon notes she didn't like the inD push because it was universal)
charu votes sunfan (i dont remember why this was) -> freezin (also suspects lito) -> haku -> mellon eagerly jumps onto it (I didn't like the timing of this vote for sure but to be fair she was a bit preoccupied replying to yoshl)

Seems like we're going back into a bit of a inD scenario again. Except instead of inD being pushed, it's mellon, and instead of mellon defending inD, we have freezin. Ofc the situation is not exactly the same but this makes me hesitant to vote for mellon once again. Ugh why is this game so hard

Yoshl notes the L-1 scenario, but continues to push mellon instead of voting sunsfan. The issue is, even if he didn't vote for sunfan, he basically just tolerated the fact that it was L-1 instead of backing off. So: if it's W/W, this is completely viable. If it's Yoshl W/sunfan T, also viable (I think a final vote is quite damning, so it's possible he tries to play it safe). Considering I think yoshl felt sunfan was towny, I think the scenarios where he is town are just unlikely.

Like seriously, he's just like "is that insta? oh nop it's L-1. Lemme just rag on haku for being braindead instead"

Ok maybe less likely to swap to mellon now

[Litodude]

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charu
if it kitbs between u and raeko would u be okay w/ that

[Litodude]

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ikr

[Charu]

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Well that's certainly a spicy prod