TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

Well ex-excuse me, I d-did v-vote for you, if y-you forget! W-what else am I s-s-supposed to d-do- I mean, I-I can only vote for one p-person at a t-t-time!


Admit w-what? All I said w-was t-that my vote was n-n-not random (c-compared to everybody else's, i-i-in fact), and t-that I was actually v-voting for somebody w-who I thought acted st-st-strange! Y-you seem to be m-missing this p-p-post of m-mine!


You ch-ch-ch-ch-cherryp-p-picking fool!


Y-you're the o-only one out of u-u-us who t-thinks that I-I-I "d-don't follow t-through," as y-you would put it. All of the actions you c-call "lighting f-fires and r-running away" are o-observations meant to h-highlight my o-op-opinions and obs-s-servations.

Either way, it's m-much more substantial that what y-you've been d-doing, i-is it not? I'd l-like to see how you're so-called c-contributions s-stack up to m-mine... or r-rather, why you t-think they are more s-substantial, c-considering all the t-time you were "HMPH-ing" a-a-around. I mean, even I-I d-didn't let my l-little incident s-stop me from d-doing some t-things.

Following through means more than placing a vote on someone. It means trying to convince other people that you're right (which you have done absolutely zero of). You have provided no evidence, no reasoning at all.

My allegation against you is that you have been saying "suspicions" and not following through.

From my perspective, you're a wolf who's throwing around names and hoping somebody else will catch on and lead a mislynch without having to get your hands dirty.

So tell us, what made you think I, Scourge, and Destiny are suspicious?

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

someone entertain me i'm bored

[TWG Aaron Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

Following through means more than placing a vote on someone. It means trying to convince other people that you're right (which you have done absolutely zero of). You have provided no evidence, no reasoning at all.

You s-seem to be mistaking m-m-making statements about people for the p-purposes of h-highlighting certain statements o-or opinions as well as f-for f-future reference as a "m-meaningless action."

From my perspective, you're a wolf who's throwing around names and hoping somebody else will catch on and lead a mislynch without having to get your hands dirty.

That m-makes no s-sense, t-though! "T-throwing around n-names," as you i-ins-sist on c-calling it (a more a-accurate statement would be "throwing around t-thoughts"), is the way to sh-sh-share my o-o-opinions o-of other people. Others c-c-catching on i-is exactly the i-intended action b-because it shows that they u-understand and s-sh-share my t-thoughts! T-team cooperation i-is the point of this g-game. As I s-said, there's no o-other way to "d-do anything a-a-about it" or "f-f-follow through" without v-voting for s-somebody, w-which i-isn't always the best course of a-action.

So tell us, what made you think I, Scourge, and Destiny are suspicious?

I w-wrote this d-down so you could read it w-without any t-trouble.

DESTINY: As I had stated earlier, I found Destiny's post about me to be strange. Destiny seemed to be trying to push a conclusion that made little or no sense from an objective perspective. As I also said, I did not think at the time that it was worth a vote, as such an action could be resulting from Destiny's way of thinking or personal playstyle, rather than a wolf's need to say something in the situation (such as by posting irrelevant content just to show that they're being "active"). Besides that, Destiny has not done much else to contribute. This makes Destiny somebody to be cautious of.

SCOURGE: I found Scourge's behavior before they started to "take the game seriously" to be strange. There's not much else to explain there. After that point, there's this little gem that is causing my internal alarm bells to go off.

not defending you, bub. I just want aaron to explain his suspicions instead of throwing out a vote

rachel

that's what we call in Marble Zone a "pressure vote" or "say something vote"

Look who just threw out a vote.

PETER: Even ignoring earlier behavior, which "others" can "corroborate" is strange (like with Scourge, there's not much to explain there, as you can't exactly quantify strangeness in an objective sense), Peter's actions this phase are... not right.

i do tend to agree that peter is an odd character... but im not sure that he's a werehog...

Peter seems to just be posting to "fluff up" their post count and make themselves seem like the top contributor. At the same time, they're also pushing an opinion against the only person- or one of the only people- who can be said to be suspicious of them. Peter's opinions appear to have little justification except for the fact that they claim that my statements somehow don't accomplish anything or somehow don't express my opinions? Recently, Peter offers this contradiction.

Granted with Aaron, 12 posts isn't a lot to work with --- but unlike the other low posters, he seems to have actually been making "relevant" posts --- but these "relevant" posts are without substance almost entirely

Compared to Peter's own contributions before this post, they're not in a position to be calling myself out for "not making posts of substance."

To conclude, a few posts that I would mark out as strange.

dan<->scourage interaction is weird

Hmph. Not really.

Thought Chris was a wolf. Changed my mind.

Hmph. Oliver.

Why Chris?

granted it's only D1 so this may very well change ---- I don't think Chris is a candidate for today's lynch though

wolf tell

might need to reevaluate Chris... later

Doing a complete 360 on Chris and attacking Oliver for making a statement about Dan/Scourge? I notice that Peter has been a bit defensive about people who go against Scourge, or give the impression that they want to.

[TWG Destiny Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

You make me want to bash in my own head.

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

You s-seem to be mistaking m-m-making statements about people for the p-purposes of h-highlighting certain statements o-or opinions as well as f-for f-future reference as a "m-meaningless action."

Except you didn't state any opinions besides "this person is strange/weird/suspicious" or whatever.
"For future reference" how does that help the rest of town? Were you really going to elaborate until I called you out on it? And when?

That m-makes no s-sense, t-though! "T-throwing around n-names," as you i-ins-sist on c-calling it (a more a-accurate statement would be "throwing around t-thoughts"), is the way to sh-sh-share my o-o-opinions o-of other people.

All you did is throw names out and say they were strange or suspicious or whatever. I read all 12 of your posts at the time. And it is not the way to share your opinions with other people --- if you actually have opinions, you need to substantiate them. How else do you expect people to follow your train of thought?

Others c-c-catching on i-is exactly the i-intended action b-because it shows that they u-understand and s-sh-share my t-thoughts! T-team cooperation i-is the point of this g-game. As I s-said, there's no o-other way to "d-do anything a-a-about it" or "f-f-follow through" without v-voting for s-somebody, w-which i-isn't always the best course of a-action.

Team cooperation is the point of the game. But again, catching wolves is the point of the game too. If you feel like you see something wolfy, you need to point it out. (Unless you're utilizing some strategic measure... but usually you want to be forthright when you want to make an accusation).

We can't read minds, and if you want to gauge our reactions to your thoughts, you need to force us to address them. I feel that most of town doesn't give you reactions because your statements are so weak they don't require attention.

What you provide below is more or less what I was trying to get from you. To address a few points:

Regarding Scourge, I don't think it's particularly wolfy to throw out pressure votes without explaining them, and then ask that people elaborate on votes without justification. I think it was justified for him in that case --- you had placed a vote on me without elaborating (and we KNOW it wasn't a pressure vote since you had said I was suspicious) and he wanted exactly what I wanted from you just now. Even if he challenged a pressure vote, I don't see that as inherently wolfy --- unless I got the impression that he's trying too hard to appear town by tackling an easy target, which I'm not seeing at the moment.

Regarding me:

My first posts were almost entirely roleplay posts. (Hmph.) Those aren't posts of substance. What I'm doing now, and did at the end of the phase (sorta), hunting for wolves and supplying opinions, these are posts of substance. Your posts did not have substance on D1. At all. And you weren't strictly roleplaying.

And about Chris, I'm null on him now. I had given him a clear for D1, but with the "Well....fuck...." and some latent thoughts I had about his self-vote, I'll need to look at him again. (Not that he's my top suspicion at the moment, but he's not as green as I thought)

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

You make me want to bash in my own head.

why don't you try to talk about what's happening instead of some stupid quirk?

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

What you provide below is more or less what I was trying to get from you.

By "what you provide below" I mean the quote train you supplying at the bottom of your post -- that's what I wanted

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

And while we're at it, do you have any town leans?

[TWG Destiny Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

why don't you try to talk about what's happening instead of some stupid quirk?

There isn't a stupid quirk?

Also if you want something about what's happening, all I see right now is you're a wolf, and they are town. You're just tunneling while they are answering everything that's being thrown at them.

And Aaron, my speculation of you didn't suggest you were a wolf, please don't wrap your head around that and lose focus trying to catch wolves.

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

The stupid quirk I was referring to is Aaron's stuttering

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

Also if you want something about what's happening, all I see right now is you're a wolf, and they are town. You're just tunneling while they are answering everything that's being thrown at them.

are you even reading?

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

He eventually gave me what I wanted, but not until his most recent post...

[TWG Scourge Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

i cant say i've been paying close attention to rachel... my gut just makes her feel towny to me...

pretty sure this means rachel is clear

[TWG Destiny Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

Welp, gg wolves.

[TWG Peter Hedgehog]

Re: TWG CXXXVI - An Extended Sonic Universe Fanfic by Ronnie Darkshadow GAME THREAD

He softed really hard with one post