TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

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    fhqwhgads
    • Feb 2005
    • 2086

    #931
    Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by choof
    epiphany
    I'm killing round tonight
    Can you explain your thought process at least before shanking me
    Originally posted by the sun fan
    I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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    • Red Blaster
      Bridge Burner
      • Jun 2011
      • 2040

      #932
      Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

      Originally posted by roundbox
      Not necessarily as he left both possibilities open. I think he is suggesting a TTT setup with his human lean on plop. He also corrected himself immediately afterwards about additional town PRs unconfirming plop.
      He said "wolf roll must be ttt or t"
      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      edgelord Linkin Park adolescent angst music
      Originally posted by choof
      hey great contribution to the thread cucklord the exit's up in the top right of your screen, it's called "log out"
      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
      what's a milky christmas :O

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      • Charles Claythorne
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2013
        • 138

        #933
        Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by _Zenith_
        Mashi, my wolf read on you derives from two things. One is a meta read; you participate a hella lot more and you tend to create full page length reads especially when we get out of D0. Two is that the content of your posts doesn't seem all that forced, yet you are definitive with much.
        That isn't a meta read. That's being suspicious of me for playing differently from my normal Wolf and Human playing styles. If you notice, the majority of my posts are at like 1-3AM EST when no one else is around and I'm tired. I've just been unexpectedly busy this game. I can't really do much at midnight when there's no one to talk to and I'm out of energy.

        I had a discussion with a Player named soah on 2+2 a few weeks ago regarding suspicion lists and he made a compelling case to me about why early suspicion lists could be more harm than good. They're closer to being randomly made Day 1, so that if you base future reads list on them (even if unintentionally), you put a bias in finding Wolves based on those 'random-placement' reads, such that just starting from scratch would be more efficient. I can go into depth about it after the game if you would like.

        As of right now, you have a vote on me. While dissecting why I am a wolf in your posts, you flip and flop between discussing the possible auto situation (again, auto wouldn't be reached until next day phase at best if everything goes right), and you started talking about Plop and Red, where as of right now they are both town aligned so you are building a potential case around Red possibly bluffing because Round has also pointed it out. You are more solid as a townie giving your own points while offering more feedback on others and I haven't seen it this game.
        Zenith, you are being suspicious of me for talking about an auto-win situation when you've literally been doing that all day yesterday. You're suspicious yourself by your own logic!
        And also, as I've repeatedly mentioned over and over, if we have two more Players claim, assuming choof helps us and we believe all the claims, the game is auto-win for us.

        It's definitely a possibility for Red Blaster to be false claiming. I don't think it's likely, but after having been completely duped by Players in the jTWG, I'm not about to underestimate anyone. Chariplop was seered Green, but if there are two more letters in this setup, the Green seering doesn't actually mean anything.

        Good luck finding any association tells with Blind and I, because Blind and I rarely pair up in games (regardless of alignment).
        I wasn't meaning to find any association tells between the two of you. I was speaking about you or blind with other Players.

        Originally posted by MrPopadopalis25
        If you're voting zenith then does that mean you disagree with my analysis below? If so, why do you think choof was left alone and unroleblocked?
        Can you direct me to the post where choof heavily implied he was vigi'ing Zenith? I skimmed through Day 1 but couldn't find anything, so perhaps I missed it.
        Regardless, given that Vendetta21 seems to have taken precedence over the choof wolfing, I'm under the impression that the Wolves were making a risky play in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if a Player like Manti took charge for a Wolf Team despite the risks from the few games I've seen of him as a Wolf; I particularly remember one where he heavily bussed his Partners as early as Day 0, much to my surprise in Post Game.

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        • blindreper1179
          Vice President Of TGB
          • Jun 2006
          • 5902

          #934
          Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

          Yes plop, I've bussed before. Both intentionally and unintentionally
          Originally posted by thesunfan
          absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
          Originally posted by choof
          It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
          Originally posted by choof
          whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
          Originally posted by Celirra
          I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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          • Charles Claythorne
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2013
            • 138

            #935
            Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

            Originally posted by choof
            epiphany
            I'm killing round tonight
            Why?

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            • _Zenith_
              Accuracy Player
              • Mar 2011
              • 4629

              #936
              Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

              Originally posted by Charles Claythorne
              That isn't a meta read. That's being suspicious of me for playing differently from my normal Wolf and Human playing styles. If you notice, the majority of my posts are at like 1-3AM EST when no one else is around and I'm tired. I've just been unexpectedly busy this game. I can't really do much at midnight when there's no one to talk to and I'm out of energy.

              I had a discussion with a Player named soah on 2+2 a few weeks ago regarding suspicion lists and he made a compelling case to me about why early suspicion lists could be more harm than good. They're closer to being randomly made Day 1, so that if you base future reads list on them (even if unintentionally), you put a bias in finding Wolves based on those 'random-placement' reads, such that just starting from scratch would be more efficient. I can go into depth about it after the game if you would like.


              Zenith, you are being suspicious of me for talking about an auto-win situation when you've literally been doing that all day yesterday. You're suspicious yourself by your own logic!
              And also, as I've repeatedly mentioned over and over, if we have two more Players claim, assuming choof helps us and we believe all the claims, the game is auto-win for us.

              It's definitely a possibility for Red Blaster to be false claiming. I don't think it's likely, but after having been completely duped by Players in the jTWG, I'm not about to underestimate anyone. Chariplop was seered Green, but if there are two more letters in this setup, the Green seering doesn't actually mean anything.


              I wasn't meaning to find any association tells between the two of you. I was speaking about you or blind with other Players.


              Can you direct me to the post where choof heavily implied he was vigi'ing Zenith? I skimmed through Day 1 but couldn't find anything, so perhaps I missed it.
              Regardless, given that Vendetta21 seems to have taken precedence over the choof wolfing, I'm under the impression that the Wolves were making a risky play in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if a Player like Manti took charge for a Wolf Team despite the risks from the few games I've seen of him as a Wolf; I particularly remember one where he heavily bussed his Partners as early as Day 0, much to my surprise in Post Game.
              1) You never mention anything relevant to the game information or what has happened thus far. You are only mentioning that you truly aren't putting effort because of real life situations (work, sleep, etc) which no player can be mad about but it is an irrelevant topic in your defense on why you aren't wolf (which hint, you definitely are one).

              2) Yet another paragraph irrelevant to our topic. You can easily (as choof has demonstrated in past games) solve the game within your reads in D0 so it is an arguable topic with no real right answer.

              3) No. I moved away from you talking about the auto-win situation being scummy to you generally being scummy and you bring up irrelevant topics/defenses to help you along. Yes, I was figuring out setup, NOT AUTO-WIN because no game is truly automatically won as early as D1; and if it is then you hit that severely low chance of actually having it happen.





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              • blindreper1179
                Vice President Of TGB
                • Jun 2006
                • 5902

                #937
                Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                What I said about Manti though would hardly be a bus if I was his partner. That is literally the only thing I said about him.
                Originally posted by thesunfan
                absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
                Originally posted by choof
                It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
                Originally posted by choof
                whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
                Originally posted by Celirra
                I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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                • _Zenith_
                  Accuracy Player
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4629

                  #938
                  Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                  I hope DBP spits posts out when he can; see him in thread but he mentioned something about flying earlier and not having the time at the moment to say much but I hope he does by EoD as he is another player in the unclear pool.





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                  • Red Blaster
                    Bridge Burner
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2040

                    #939
                    Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                    Originally posted by _Zenith_
                    I hope DBP spits posts out when he can; see him in thread but he mentioned something about flying earlier and not having the time at the moment to say much but I hope he does by EoD as he is another player in the unclear pool.
                    I mean..if he's flying he's essentially got nothing but time given that most planes offer free wifi and he's basically got nothing else to do other than sleep
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    edgelord Linkin Park adolescent angst music
                    Originally posted by choof
                    hey great contribution to the thread cucklord the exit's up in the top right of your screen, it's called "log out"
                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    what's a milky christmas :O

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                    • Charles Claythorne
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 138

                      #940
                      Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                      Originally posted by _Zenith_
                      1) You never mention anything relevant to the game information or what has happened thus far. You are only mentioning that you truly aren't putting effort because of real life situations (work, sleep, etc) which no player can be mad about but it is an irrelevant topic in your defense on why you aren't wolf (which hint, you definitely are one).
                      What! You don't think I haven't been giving my opinions and analysing actions in any of my quote posts?
                      I never said I wasn't putting in any effort and if you're suggesting that I'm not, I'm indignant, considering that I've stayed up to post long past when I should have been in bed. If you think that just because I'm busy and posting a bit less than usual, I'm not putting in any effort, that's false.

                      2) Yet another paragraph irrelevant to our topic. You can easily (as choof has demonstrated in past games) solve the game within your reads in D0 so it is an arguable topic with no real right answer.
                      No, game theory is definitely a field of study with very real conclusions. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything conclusive unless it's backed up by a large sample size and statistical study. There's always going to be a few times certain Players are going to be right on the mark Day 0, but that's normal when taking into account variance of accuracy of reads. Based on what soah's told me on 2+2, Day 0 lynches of a Wolf are as good as random, so what does that tell you about Day 0 reads?

                      3) No. I moved away from you talking about the auto-win situation being scummy to you generally being scummy and you bring up irrelevant topics/defenses to help you along. Yes, I was figuring out setup, NOT AUTO-WIN because no game is truly automatically won as early as D1; and if it is then you hit that severely low chance of actually having it happen.
                      I mentioned an auto-win situation in maybe 2 or 3 posts until you blew it out of proportion.

                      Why would you want to figure out the setup when by your own logic, you should be trying to find suspicious people to lynch as Wolves?

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                      • _Zenith_
                        Accuracy Player
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4629

                        #941
                        Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by choof
                        epiphany
                        I'm killing round tonight
                        What if our lynch target today flips town? Would anyone hop on the priority list over Round?





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                        • Red Blaster
                          Bridge Burner
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2040

                          #942
                          Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                          But I suppose that's not for me to comment on
                          Originally posted by hi19hi19
                          edgelord Linkin Park adolescent angst music
                          Originally posted by choof
                          hey great contribution to the thread cucklord the exit's up in the top right of your screen, it's called "log out"
                          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                          what's a milky christmas :O

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                          • roundbox
                            fhqwhgads
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 2086

                            #943
                            Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                            Originally posted by MrPopadopalis25
                            Round is a decent night target. I say go for it.
                            Why do you think that?
                            Originally posted by the sun fan
                            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #944
                              Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by roundbox
                              Can you explain your thought process at least before shanking me
                              nah

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                              • roundbox
                                fhqwhgads
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 2086

                                #945
                                Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                                Originally posted by choof
                                nah
                                at least red blaster had the decency to explain why he was voting me
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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