TWG CI: Fiction's Birthday Party

[j-rodd123]

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Day 1 was mostly a lot of danceguy, fiction, and jrodd arguing.

Using activity as a litmus test for humanness I wouldn't really consider any of them high priority targets because to be that active that early into the game is the sort of things humans with experience do. Fiction is the only person I don't give this sort of deference to completely because he has sweet talked his way through a wolf role many times.

Still the person who stands out to me the most is charu, and that's because his tone still has a sort of friendly reticence to it. It's the sort of thing the concerns me because his meta has already established that you can't expect much out of him. (Probably because he is too dumb and/or emotionally walled off by that pleasant exterior to actually say how he feels about something.)

Manti definitely is wolfy for his whining about the lack of powers of a wolf role, but to bandwagon this early makes me feel like we are wasting our time with many hours left in the phase. I don't feel like this is such a wholly condemning tell to kill him just yet. He also hasn't really provided anything useful to think about this game. I ask myself what we are gaining by bandwagoning manti right now, and given the lack of prods and attacks I feel it is not much. His day one play was pretty lackluster though.

Manti do you really feel that in order for you to play this game successfully you must rely on my browbeating of others? I kinda think that is horseshit, and has almost become this trope you subscribe to. I feel like you were successful in this game well before I started playing with you. I mean I guess it's always possible that your play has become shitty and lazy because you've found someone else to do the work for you.

I'm concerned about the replacements. Replacing has a strong tendency to help wolves and wolves tend to do this when they realize that they don't feel up to the challenge of lying for two weeks straight.

TPS222

I'm curious as to what made you vote manti and I also want to know your opinion of danceguy and crazyjayde thus far.

agree with the replacement thing although I feel this is kind of unfair to the game, and stuff like this is just spew from people no longer involved. I mean looking at the past games the wolves,as a trend, have been inactive and requesting subs. the other has happened, but placing your vote on that alone is not the best way to go about it. tps hasn't done anything villagery tho which is a plus I guess.

agree with points on charu as well

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Sigh I actually need to respond to Fic's post.

Not now though, I've got an MTG tourney to go to. I'll make sure to get something in tonight when I get home.

[j-rodd123]

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also you've said the whole "going with the old lynch manti day 1" then "lynch manti if he survives night 1", but that actually has never happened so idk what ur getting at with that logic

[j-rodd123]

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going with the old "lynch manti if he survives night 1" eh?

Jrodd, you're the first to place a meaningless vote on Manti, why is that? It's day 2 and we all need to have at least some substantial reasoning on our part if we want to prove someone is not a villa. Just a pointless post with a vote makes it less credible imho. Show me some proof. Same goes for tps, our newest member~

this is the kind of 1 dimensional thinking and post I expect from james now, so hey im gonna do what V seems to hate and say I think it's villagery from james. not im not going to the end of the earth declaring his humanity like for some reason you think I do when I say what I think, but seems like a villa line from james

[j-rodd123]

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and do you know why the vote was there? were you lurking the thread at end of day, im 95% sure I saw you viewing the thread, you didn't even push who you were voting and were therefore useless and unaccountable for this lynch. but imo it makes you look bad, I offered some other options, but no people here went for any, and that was okay because pntballa was not someone I had a human read on.

charu did the same thing as you, except voted for pntballa when he was 99% to die lol, why would he do this? it could be a noob wolf wanting to kill a human, a noob human wanting to listen to more active players but it isn't the best look for him regardless

[j-rodd123]

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I don't know if lazy completely describes my play. Lackluster does, but that's intentional. I want to hear input from other players. I'm pretty much done proving myself to people. Everyone knows I'm capable of playing a great game of TWG.

I pretty much just hang back and read reactions anymore. I don't try to mess with people to get reactions because it takes time and I tend to get wolved pretty fast when I'm active and aggressive.

Longevity leads to better information and better reads.


As far as the "whining about wolf powers thing" goes, I think fiction put it pretty good:

"im pretty much done proving myself to people". like come on, you're no fun to play with because of this. this is your claimed 'playstyle' as long as I've played on this site, so try to win because I don't even know why you play if you just want to prove yourself to people lol.

[j-rodd123]

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hey guys

[FictionJunction]

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if I told you that Manticore still cares about TWG would you believe it?

Maybe. The thing about Manticore is that he cares about TWG but he is very selective about what games he cares enough about to participate in. This is a little problematic because it allows him to play behind a veil of authoritative apathy as a red. It's difficult to reveal Manti's tell because you have to strike at the heart of what Manti cares about: being right, calling people out and winning. That last bit is the most important, obviously, because it supersedes the former two. Manti is willing to be wrong and is willing to forgo calling people out in exchange for a win. The only circumstance that would choose to do this is him being red.

So, we must look back and ask is Manti posting less because he normally 'joins' games on d2 d3? Is he posting less because he wants to get a clear read on people? Is he only posting to complain about people raising stupid questions because he's annoyed? Is he purposefully filtering himself? Weren't there particular moments in the thread that I would have expected Manti to say something constructive?

Because, let's face it, Manti is busy playing Ninja Gaiden but Manti also gets turned on by the possibility of leading people out of a mess. I think that opportunity presented itself a number of times.

[mellonxcollie]

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This is really hard to catch up on. I don't want my lack of activity to seem suspicious so I will explain that I am currently staying away from my house for personal reasons, and am also getting ready to start my new job tomorrow. Still doing my best to catch up on the thread and I will be sure to make a post with some real input tonight and do my best to be an active player in this game!

[dAnceguy117]

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I'll keep thinking. You all keep talking.

[dAnceguy117]

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It would be easier to find wolves if more than half of the players were playing.

There's at least one wolf between V and Charu. I'm fine with killing either of them.

[FictionJunction]

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I defer to our dear leader danceguy to tell us what to do. My sword is yours, my body is yours.

[FictionJunction]

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As a baseline a question I tend to ask myself about each player is "why are they playing this game? What motivates them to play TWG?" This is perhaps the first and most valuable question one must ask about a player.

This is the single most important thing about TWG ever.

[Vendetta21]

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Love you too.

As a baseline a question I tend to ask myself about each player is "why are they playing this game? What motivates them to play TWG?" This is perhaps the first and most valuable question one must ask about a player.

Some people like a puzzle they can never be sure if they are solving or not. Some people like to obsess over the details to find some logical or behavioral aberration. Some people like to display how smart they are. None of these seem to fit you. Do you get why that concerns me?

It concerns me because it leaves me with two ways of perceiving your behavior. The first is that you are only playing because you like this environment in which others are forced to read and respond to what you say because it's a pretty good way for your attention-seeking behaviors to be sated. The second is that you are riding your internet facsimile of a personality that has a least some recognition here on these forums because you were thrown a tough role in an uncomfortable environment.

I called you dumb, and then no sooner than the letters left my fingertips you acted dumb. It lead me to believe that the response was adaptive. You write clean, complete sentences. You ask questions. And yet you miss blaringly obvious details about Manti. I give you my impression of you and you run with it faster. I interpret that as a veil you are using to defend yourself, to keep yourself walled off from actually making commitments, or giving analysis, or anything at all.

I'm going to watch you eat rope, charu.

[James May]

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I don't need to show some proof because I am me