Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

[Hakulyte]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

I would just repeat what FreezinIce is saying if I posted.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

I'm feeling more useful that way.

how so?

[Hakulyte]

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hey haku so whats the deal with your utr?

I'm feeling more useful that way.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

hey haku so whats the deal with your utr?

[Wayward Vagabond]

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so we got haku freezin and myself here

[Wayward Vagabond]

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Raeko are you still feeling paranoid about haku or did this day change your opinion on him?

[FreezinIce]

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Cel, this is the part where I'd offer to spare you if you sold out your partner. But she's already dead.

Whoops.

Come on out and play cel, might as well go down fighting

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

I think projecting lynches into the following days is a wolf strat but to humor you:

The night kill would matter a lot
Possible seer claims would factor as well

But as I am now Nakah would probably be where I start because I still have no reason not to think the last wolf was on my wagon yesterday

alright yeah fair enough

[FreezinIce]

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in the event that cel gets lynched and flips town what then? would you go for nakah next?

I think projecting lynches into the following days is a wolf strat but to humor you:

The night kill would matter a lot
Possible seer claims would factor as well

But as I am now Nakah would probably be where I start because I still have no reason not to think the last wolf was on my wagon yesterday

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

Also I thought there was a point where FFA said he checked Raeko in the night, and then I thought Freezin was saying he was green checking FFA and called him town?

Do we have a wolf between Celirra FFA and Freezin?

i would add haku in there as well but those would be who i would say

celery
ffa/haku
freezin

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

in the event that cel gets lynched and flips town what then? would you go for nakah next?

[FreezinIce]

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I read the read again, I see what you're saying freezin. That's why Im not coming out with a vote yet, because I want to hear more from Celirra. It's possible Freezin was left alive so that he'd take a lot of heat today and get lynched.

I thought Haku's immediate vote for Celirra day 0 was a little early, so he's not def green checked for me, but he's not standing out wolfy either.

Waiting to hear more...

Glad to hear it.

So you understand now why everyone is leaving checks like they are the seer, and why I was annoyed that you didn't.

Just in case and because more relevant info couldn't hurt, let me requote my post on it. It will also explain why WV is clear for me now.

Info for the masses: iirc optimal play has seer claiming tomorrow. Either they have a wolf and green check or 3 confirmed towns going into d1 which is powerful in a setup with so little people. Which is why it's pivotal for wolves to hit seer tonight.

And the power of leaving green checks should be obvious: dissemination of information with no real drawbacks. Because wolves win rate plummets the longer the seer is left alive, they are almost mechanically forced into seer hunting, which soft clears the green check of the night kill. Why? This calls for a bit of critical thinking.

If you were a wolf, your goal with the night kill would be to hit the seer. You make the kill on x player because you think they are the seer. Someone who leaves a green check on a wolf cannot be the seer, and therefore would not be the night kill. So by association, the night kill would be on a player who in the eyes of the wolves is the seer, and therefore that players green check would always be on a human.

Is this always the case? Of course not. But killing a human who has a green check on a wolf to make a wild look better is objectively worse for the wolves than seer hunting, and almost always not worth it in the long run.

Now you know the power of hypocop, the meta behind it, and how much you not buying in or at least staying silent until you understood the logistics behind it has potentially messed it up.

Btw normally I wouldn't explain this and I'm not doing this for cred, I legitimately want you to understand the situation (as well as anyone else not aware of it)

It makes no sense for haku to kill his partner at eod when he could have killed me and faced almost no repercussions. Is it possible? Yes. A lot of things in life are possible. It's not worth considering before I deal with cel however.

[Lightknight924]

Re: Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

read the thread*

[Lightknight924]

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I read the read again, I see what you're saying freezin. That's why Im not coming out with a vote yet, because I want to hear more from Celirra. It's possible Freezin was left alive so that he'd take a lot of heat today and get lynched.

I thought Haku's immediate vote for Celirra day 0 was a little early, so he's not def green checked for me, but he's not standing out wolfy either.

Waiting to hear more...

[FreezinIce]

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Wait I'm a moron.

WV was blinds green check which means he's mechanically soft cleared.

Game just got even easier for you conspiracy theorists who thought WV was suspicious at all.