jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

[Necamus]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Fish got me convinced over AIM.

Chromer

Also, I don't know how much longer I'll be on tonight, so best to get a vote out.

[dawg4321]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

I've made my decision.

Chromer

[Torlock]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Day 1 Voting Guide
rsr2-4(Neonatrias,Pumble,mattc16,gonzo4life44)
Chromer-4(FishFishRevolution,Chickendude,Necamus,dawg4321)
Pumble-2(whiteflame,rsr2)
Dawg4321-2(xObserveRx,Chromer)
gonzo4life44-1(PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR)
Tasuke-1(Lightknight924)

Yet to vote:Tasuke

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Also, psychic, if tomorrow you get the report that there's only 2 wolves, it might be in your and the general public's best interest to come out. If not come out, then PM me anonymously (or just come to me on AIM, it's up to you) and let me know that there are in fact two wolves left.

This of course only applies if Chromer ends up getting the axe. (coming to me that is)

[Chromer]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Wow, I love how my reasoning to avoid fsck-ups later on in the game with having inexperienced noobs garnered the reasoning (From "Fish" nonetheless) for me being a wolf. Honestly, Fish, you think trying to pressure a noob into saying I'm a wolf is really intelligent? Also let me break down some of your reasoning:

1. You say by me saying the wolves know what they are doing is giving away my wolfiness. Ok, but can I point something out? Observer, Pumble, and others all pointed out that the wolves knew Iggy was a vet. Yet, I say the same and I automatically look wolfish? Bad analysis on your part my friend.

2. You say I post the suspicious train on Rsr2. Ok, I'll admit I wasn't really suspicious of him. I wanted to see how he would react IF I said I was suspicious of him. It seemed to work as everyone started to take notice. Yet, that is a human strategy. Think about it. from what i've seen in the Pro TWG, if one person has just a slight suspicion about someone else, most of the time it's brought up in the forums. I guess you could say that was a sloppy strategy on my part. yet there was nothing remotely wolfy about that either.

3. This is probably the most inane reason you came up with. Yous aid that you bandwagoned Mini to save him. Good for you. But I jumped on dawg to save rsr2/ No. in this game so far, I have yet displayed "wolf-sympathy" for rsr2. It was this post that made me forgive rsr2 for being a noob in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Well then if he's inactive, we can get rid of him. No point in inactive players even being in the game. It gives us more possible wolf targets later in the game if we let the inactives live, and also eliminates the possibility of a wolf being inactive all game and flying under the radar.

BUT That's not the only post:

I think it's because rsr is new Chromer. He's not sure what to go with. So I'm going with Tasuke for now. I'm going to keep a closer eye on rsr as the game goes on.

So, in my line of thinking, "Ok know that rsr2 is a noob but at least he is trying to make sense of this. However, dawg has screwed himself over royally but not giving real evidence and saying whatever comes to mind. An inactive noob is worse than a noob who tries. heh, I would SO LOVE to see you pull anything wolfy from that thought.

Yet, you continued by posting a large page stretching convo of your so called "interrogation" of the noob in question. I'm suprised that rsr2 didn't find your questioning blantant and minutely disgusting at how forcefully you were asking. And you said it yourself!

i was trying to make you admit to your partner
because that's what a wolf would do

tell me Fish or ANY OF THOSE WHO VOTED ME, whose my partner? Where's my irefutable wolf proof? What? Don't have any? Aww. That sucks then huh? Fish, obviously from your expertise, you brought up good points about my pseudo-wolf posts, but I hate to break it to you that you're way of course on this one friend. Also your post brings up a rather interesting concept:

3. Players are not allowed to reveal their PMs to anyone else, show screenshots of their PMs to anyone, nor use information within their PMs as a method of confirming humanity. Players are not allowed to reveal conversations relating to the game with the game's host to any other player. Players may not post screenshots of conversations they have with other players.

Now I might be wrong but isn't posting an AIM conversation the SAME as revealing a conversation? Seems like it to me.

[Necamus]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

The only problem is, a wolf could all too easily come and say that there are only two left, just to throw you off.

[Tasuke]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Due t otoday being the first day and i have no real suspicions to go on other than one and i don't really want to say it now. So I'm just gonna vote LightKnight
'cuz he's all relentless in voting me although he has no real reason.

[Chromer]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Wow, I love how my reasoning to avoid fsck-ups later on in the game with having inexperienced noobs garnered the reasoning (From "Fish" nonetheless) for me being a wolf. Honestly, Fish, you think trying to pressure a noob into saying I'm a wolf is really intelligent? Also let me break down some of your reasoning:

1. You say by me saying the wolves know what they are doing is giving away my wolfiness. Ok, but can I point something out? Observer, Pumble, and others all pointed out that the wolves knew Iggy was a vet. Yet, I say the same and I automatically look wolfish? Bad analysis on your part my friend.

2. You say I post the suspicious train on Rsr2. Ok, I'll admit I wasn't really suspicious of him. I wanted to see how he would react IF I said I was suspicious of him. It seemed to work as everyone started to take notice. Yet, that is a human strategy. Think about it. from what i've seen in the Pro TWG, if one person has just a slight suspicion about someone else, most of the time it's brought up in the forums. I guess you could say that was a sloppy strategy on my part. yet there was nothing remotely wolfy about that either.

3. This is probably the most inane reason you came up with. Yous aid that you bandwagoned Mini to save him. Good for you. But I jumped on dawg to save rsr2/ No. in this game so far, I have yet displayed "wolf-sympathy" for rsr2. It was this post that made me forgive rsr2 for being a noob in the wrong place at the wrong time.



BUT That's not the only post:



So, in my line of thinking, "Ok know that rsr2 is a noob but at least he is trying to make sense of this. However, dawg has screwed himself over royally but not giving real evidence and saying whatever comes to mind. An inactive noob is worse than a noob who tries. heh, I would SO LOVE to see you pull anything wolfy from that thought.

Yet, you continued by posting a large page stretching convo of your so called "interrogation" of the noob in question. I'm suprised that rsr2 didn't find your questioning blantant and minutely disgusting at how forcefully you were asking. And you said it yourself!

i was trying to make you admit to your partner
because that's what a wolf would do

tell me Fish or ANY OF THOSE WHO VOTED ME, whose my partner? Where's my irefutable wolf proof? What? Don't have any? Aww. That sucks then huh? Fish, obviously from your expertise, you brought up good points about my pseudo-wolf posts, but I hate to break it to you that you're way of course on this one friend. Also your post brings up a rather interesting concept:



Now I might be wrong but isn't posting an AIM conversation the SAME as revealing a conversation? Seems like it to me.

Just bumping in case you missed it.

[Necamus]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Nope, didn't miss it..

And about the AIM convo, from what I remember, you can also fake AIM chats, so you are simply restricted from posting a screen shot of it, because that would prove it. Or something weird like that. But I don't think he broke any rules.

[Torlock]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

**RULE CLARIFICATION**

Players are not allowed to reveal their PMs to anyone else, show screenshots of their PMs to anyone, nor use information within their PMs as a method of confirming humanity. Players are not allowed to reveal conversations relating to the game with the game's host to any other player. Players may not post screenshots of conversations they have with other players.

You are allowed to post AIM conversations between you and other players. You can't reveal part of your conversation with the host to any other player. You also can't post screenshots of conversations with other players. You can post logs of conversations with other players.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

1. You say by me saying the wolves know what they are doing is giving away my wolfiness. Ok, but can I point something out? Observer, Pumble, and others all pointed out that the wolves knew Iggy was a vet. Yet, I say the same and I automatically look wolfish? Bad analysis on your part my friend.

Yes, the point is you stated it AFTER it had already been stated multiple times. I was also using it to compare who you went fore vs who you thought wolfed iggy.

2. You say I post the suspicious train on Rsr2. Ok, I'll admit I wasn't really suspicious of him. I wanted to see how he would react IF I said I was suspicious of him. It seemed to work as everyone started to take notice. Yet, that is a human strategy. Think about it. from what i've seen in the Pro TWG, if one person has just a slight suspicion about someone else, most of the time it's brought up in the forums. I guess you could say that was a sloppy strategy on my part. yet there was nothing remotely wolfy about that either.

You're right, voting to incite a reaction is a very good strategy, I use it more often as a human than I do as a wolf.

3. This is probably the most inane reason you came up with. Yous aid that you bandwagoned Mini to save him. Good for you. But I jumped on dawg to save rsr2/ No. in this game so far, I have yet displayed "wolf-sympathy" for rsr2. It was this post that made me forgive rsr2 for being a noob in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Well then if he's inactive, we can get rid of him. No point in inactive players even being in the game. It gives us more possible wolf targets later in the game if we let the inactives live, and also eliminates the possibility of a wolf being inactive all game and flying under the radar.

BUT That's not the only post:

I think it's because rsr is new Chromer. He's not sure what to go with. So I'm going with Tasuke for now. I'm going to keep a closer eye on rsr as the game goes on.

So, in my line of thinking, "Ok know that rsr2 is a noob but at least he is trying to make sense of this. However, dawg has screwed himself over royally but not giving real evidence and saying whatever comes to mind. An inactive noob is worse than a noob who tries. heh, I would SO LOVE to see you pull anything wolfy from that thought.

Either way, you're not wolf-hunting, you're picking the greater noob, which is not helpful, and is also characteristically wolf behavior.

Yet, you continued by posting a large page stretching convo of your so called "interrogation" of the noob in question. I'm suprised that rsr2 didn't find your questioning blantant and minutely disgusting at how forcefully you were asking. And you said it yourself!

i was trying to make you admit to your partner
because that's what a wolf would do

Yeah, asking forcefully of his role was the entire point of the conversation, to get him to answer quickly.

tell me Fish or ANY OF THOSE WHO VOTED ME, whose my partner? Where's my irefutable wolf proof? What? Don't have any? Aww. That sucks then huh? Fish, obviously from your expertise, you brought up good points about my pseudo-wolf posts, but I hate to break it to you that you're way of course on this one friend.

Now hold on a minute, this just plain doesn't make sense. I was interrogating rsr because I knew he was new, and if he was a new wolf, he would try to act like he knew that humans got partners when they didn't. That was the basis of the lie there. It has nothing to do with anyone really having partners.

3. Players are not allowed to reveal their PMs to anyone else, show screenshots of their PMs to anyone, nor use information within their PMs as a method of confirming humanity. Players are not allowed to reveal conversations relating to the game with the game's host to any other player. Players may not post screenshots of conversations they have with other players.

Now I might be wrong but isn't posting an AIM conversation the SAME as revealing a conversation? Seems like it to me.

Uh, people post AIM conversations all the time. It's posting AIM logs with the host that's a problem

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Hey seer, seer me tonight please. ; ) <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

EDIT: also guard, so says the jtwg chat.

[Necamus]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Can we get a list of votes?

I'm lazy...

[Torlock]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Day 1 Voting Guide
rsr2-4(Neonatrias,Pumble,mattc16,gonzo4life44)
Chromer-4(FishFishRevolution,Chickendude,Necamus,dawg4321)
Pumble-2(whiteflame,rsr2)
Dawg4321-2(xObserveRx,Chromer)
gonzo4life44-1(PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR)
Tasuke-1(Lightknight924)
Lightknight924-1(Tasuke)

[Chromer]

Re: jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

Psssh. If this ends up being a knife in the box situation, it's gonna suck.