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  • Xiaounlimited
    Eaguru
    • Jul 2005
    • 2832

    #31
    Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

    Originally posted by Xandertrax
    Basically, there's no definitive pattern in the music to step to.
    So ask, why are you stepping it?

    [edit]
    Also, we judge from three measures because you tend to use patterns in all your files that are awkward for any type of style, whether it's new or not.

    Generally, step artists do not deviate from their original style much. TBH, I don't like any of your files in-game; and I haven't high expectations for this file, from what it seems.
    Last edited by Xiaounlimited; 10-3-2008, 03:24 PM.
    Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

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    • giganutsauce
      Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 761

      #32
      Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

      Originally posted by Xandertrax
      Scythe was one of my first files. Accepted under older judging. If you want to make a better V2, be my guest.

      P.S. thanks for judging my file from 3 measures. That part has been simplified down 3 times - this is just the newest version. The music isn't clear enough - going in the back are continuous 32nds, but you can't hear those unless you have rly good speakers. Basically, there's no definitive pattern in the music to step to.
      The music is perfectly fine lmfao I'm currently stepping this for Stepmania, and I can hear everything. Use headphones when you step.

      And if that was seriously simplified three times (I highly doubt it was), then I'd love to see the V1.

      That said, I seriously need to step something for FFR. Maybe I'll step this hehu.

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      • robertsona
        missa in h-moll
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2006
        • 4000

        #33
        Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

        You guys are idiots.
        Almost all of you have like no experience of stepping (except torrent) and you make attacks on a stepfile artist and his file, from which you have only seen 3 measures.
        Oni_paranoia, let's see your files? You shouldn't talk if you can't step yourself.
        If you can't do patterns, don't just bitch about it and claim he's a bad stepfile author because if it. It's just that YOUR bad at the pattern. GOD YOU GUYS FFR IS SERIOUS.

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        • [TeRa]
          FFR Player
          • May 2007
          • 9922

          #34
          Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

          You don't need to have stepping experience to know what a fun file is Sona. After playing a file, you can tell if it was fun or not, even if you have no stepping experience.
          You stepped 300, I don't believe you have stepping experience either based off that horrible file.
          I dislike Xandertrax files, I won't flame them or anything, they aren't horrible, not even bad, they're okay, nothing awesome though, I find scythe to be his best file personally, I hate the patterns in Sonata Quasi.

          Sona, he said Xander's files are bad, Oni never once claimed his files were better or good at all. You have no reason to ask to see his files, he simply gave his opinion on Xan's files.
          Last edited by [TeRa]; 10-3-2008, 03:48 PM.

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          • robertsona
            missa in h-moll
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2006
            • 4000

            #35
            Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

            Originally posted by [TeRa]
            You don't need to have stepping experience to know what a fun file is sona.
            Yes but it helps when claiming someone is bad at stepping.
            Originally posted by [TeRa]
            You stepped 300, I don't believe you have stepping experience either based off that horrible file.
            First, that file's not really as bad as people make it out to be. Second, that file is old as crap. Third, I have other files you know I also have two other queue'd files, which I accidentally asked to be removed (tass claims i did at least).
            Originally posted by [TeRa]
            I dislike Xandertrax files, I won't flame them or anything, they aren't horrible, not even bad, they're okay, nothing awesome though, I find scythe to be his best file personally, I hate the patterns in Sonata Quasi.
            Note that I have no problem with this. It's just when people claim he sucks at stepping and have no proof/experience to back it up, it kinda pisses me off.

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            • Xiaounlimited
              Eaguru
              • Jul 2005
              • 2832

              #36
              Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

              Originally posted by robertsona
              First, that file's not really as bad as people make it out to be.
              If it wasn't, so many people wouldn't have flamed it by now.

              Originally posted by robertsona
              Note that I have no problem with this. It's just when people claim he sucks at stepping and have no proof/experience to back it up, it kinda pisses me off.
              Whenever someone says "LET'S SEE YOU DO BETTER LOL" is funny, because chances are you do it to something, yourself. Music? Movies? Games? Webdesign? Yeah, let's see you do those better. Everybody's a critic, you're almost damn guaranteed no exception. This is that kind of case. People will criticise; and if you aren't ready to take it, you shouldn't be making things in the first place. Blending into the crowd and not taking any blame is easier, anyways.

              Tera is right, you don't need stepping experience to know what a fun file is. If anything, you should know equally as well, because the files are FOR the players. I don't step, but I know the difference between a fun file, an interesting file, a challenging file, and a garbage/awkward file. I've been exposed to enough **** and I'm decent enough at this goddamned arrowsmash game that I think I can criticise them myself. Oni falls into this case, as well.

              Last I knew, Xandertrax wasn't or isn't good enough to even do FGOs very well, so someone who lacks that skill making a file that hard (re: EnR and Hardkore Atomic, etc.) is a bit more ironic than anything. How would Xander know what's awkward and what isn't? Tell me that.
              Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

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              • stargroup100
                behanjc & me are <3'ers
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Jul 2006
                • 2051

                #37
                Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                okay, first of all, you don't have to be good at something to be a critic. there are lots of people in this world who have good taste and can actually appreciate the finer works in life. anyone who uses the "well let's see you do better" excuse is insecure and too blinded by stepmania culture

                I would not consider xandertrax a good stepartist, but iirc teh tricky techno had the potential to be decently fun despite a few quirks.

                now about "awkward" patterns. everyone here apparently is not clear about what constitutes and awkward pattern. a pattern is awkward when one or more of the following conditions are met:
                1. the steps do not fit the music well
                2. the steps seem to place "imaginery" parts in the music that don't exist
                3. the speed of the file in addition to its position make it nearly impossible to hit correctly and accurately

                of course there are exceptions but these are generally it
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                • Oni-Paranoia
                  No fucks
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 2440

                  #38
                  Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                  Originally posted by robertsona
                  Note that I have no problem with this. It's just when people claim he sucks at stepping and have no proof/experience to back it up, it kinda pisses me off.

                  Ive been steppin since DDR Extreme was released.. jus thought Id throw that out and also im a pad player, so i pretty much like to spread index/pad patterns, something Xandertrax lacks (not a bad thing FFR wise)

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                  • Xiaounlimited
                    Eaguru
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 2832

                    #39
                    Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                    Originally posted by stargroup100
                    now about "awkward" patterns. everyone here apparently is not clear about what constitutes and awkward pattern. a pattern is awkward when one or more of the following conditions are met:
                    1. the steps do not fit the music well
                    2. the steps seem to place "imaginery" parts in the music that don't exist
                    3. the speed of the file in addition to its position make it nearly impossible to hit correctly and accurately

                    of course there are exceptions but these are generally it
                    Patterns that feel awkward to hit while playing vary from player to player, but there are those that a good majority of people have trouble with. Those sections of files people say "feel weird" can fall under this, too. Not just file technicality.

                    Also, do you even play? Seriously
                    Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

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                    • stargroup100
                      behanjc & me are <3'ers
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2051

                      #40
                      Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                      Originally posted by Xiaounlimited
                      Patterns that feel awkward to hit while playing vary from player to player...
                      because people have different tastes. summarized by points 1 and 2 (well 2 is if you're stupid)

                      Originally posted by Xiaounlimited
                      ...but there are those that a good majority of people have trouble with. Those sections of files people say "feel weird" can fall under this, too. Not just file technicality.
                      these fall under point 3. sry <3

                      Originally posted by Xiaounlimited
                      Also, do you even play? Seriously
                      how the hell can I be a good stepper if I don't even play? seriously

                      why do you doubt me so? I thought you loved me ;_;
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                      Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

                      Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

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                      • Xiaounlimited
                        Eaguru
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2832

                        #41
                        Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                        Originally posted by stargroup100
                        how the hell can I be a good stepper if I don't even play? seriously

                        why do you doubt me so? I thought you loved me ;_;
                        I haven't seen a single score or anything from you, but I don't lurk ODI. Damned if I'm supposed to know.
                        Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

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                        • SkySeal
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1353

                          #42
                          Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

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                          • Patashu
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 8609

                            #43
                            Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                            ducky doesn't play and he makes good files
                            macgravel doesn't play pad and he makes good pad files
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                            • buizel8888
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1536

                              #44
                              Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                              does bufang even play 4 panel?
                              not saying it matters for the file part, just wondering
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                              • SkySeal
                                FFR Player
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1353

                                #45
                                Re: Someone make this file as hard as like Vrofl

                                yeah he does, he's posted some speed stuff various times on the old RF site

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