Anyone up for blue army?

[Foxboy9x]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

alright, so far as heavy steps go, they aren't done yet. i wasted nearly 16 hours syncing it on challenge mode and since nobody wants to dl it, it was kind of a waste. I don't have the source file or the time to finish off the heavy steps at my grandfather's, so chill and I'll do it in about 5 hours. Till then I'm helpin him finish off this tree that he's being paid to remove. So far as the bg goes, I don't know how zagh will feel about that, so perhaps we should ask. If he doesn't want us to use it, we could always revert to what I had, and mod the text accordingly. Banner is really good, but I may have to slightly mod it to be a different shade of blue. Cd title = t3h uberness. So, that said, I'm gonna take the sim off of bemanistyle soon(when the dl to this comp finishes) so that it can be released correctly.

PS i think dAnceguy117 doesn't really abhor us or the sim or the music, but is trying to pick on us to look good because everyone else likes to pick on me and you're on my side. With that in mind, danceguy, you can change your position on the sim if you're just putting up false pretenses, seeing as all the people you're trying to get support from aren't even viewing this thread anymore.

[ViperSnake]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

It doesn't really matter, though. It's just another Blue Army file I'm not going to waste my time with.

Then why would you waste your time posting in this thread?

PS: That CDTitle is horrid.

Horrid eh? Why don't explain to us WHY then.

[ViperSnake]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

So far as the bg goes, I don't know how zagh will feel about that, so perhaps we should ask. If he doesn't want us to use it, we could always revert to what I had, and mod the text accordingly.

Nah, thats okay. I just made this so we don't have to worry about using Zags or asking for permission. I like this a lot better anyway; lol I only spent like 5 minutes making it.

[-Laggy-]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

I'll attempt to give you some reasonable feedback instead of simply flaming you based on the challenge chart, since no one else has yet to do so.

First of all, the bpm is off, the actual bpm of the song is 91.10. Whether you decide to use 91.10, 182.20 or 364.40 or any other multiple of it is entirely up to you, it does not matter in terms of syncing, but 365.999 does not do (especially since this is a marathon). The stepfile was completely doomed because of this before you even started.

As for the syncing, I'll just say that I could hardly find any notes that went to anything. The whole chart is a retardedly hard lump of random notes that have no relation whatsoever to the music.

You should see what I mean if you actually went and listened to it with assist tick on.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

Wouldn't the real BPM be 182.20 based on the bass kicks that are present through most of the song, though? This is in 4/4 time, so I would have to assume those bass kicks would be quarter notes. At 91.10, they would become 8th notes.

Foxboy, like others said early in the thread.. no one wanted to see another Blue Army. I will be downloading your other sims you posted before to see how they are. I meant to say that earlier. However, based on Laggy's comment (and yes, he is a high quality simfile artist), things don't sound promising.

[Foxboy9x]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

it's off by 2 bpm. ok, I might have to fix that. and yeah, some of those notes are synced well, I'd go so far as to say most, but then I went back 4 or 5 times, adding arrows, to make sure it was next to impossible. So yeah i guess i killed it in that sense. and for using This for bpm i did pretty damn good.
oh yeah and nice changes viper. now it's "oni blue"
totally diggin' it.

[Foxboy9x]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

I got rid of most of my old sims, cuz KHVC sucked, AM Radio was removed by mods (idk why), and ROSS was way too easy. The only survivor - Fox on the run.

[ViperSnake]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

As for the syncing, I'll just say that I could hardly find any notes that went to anything. The whole chart is a retardedly hard lump of random notes that have no relation whatsoever to the music.

I couldn't follow Foxboy9x's challenge steps either, but at one point in the song, where the lady is singing (theres a bunch a freeze arrows) its actually pretty good. Foxboy9x he is right about the rest though; I had a hard time trying to play it to beat of the music. Unless some crazy guy that can AAAA it says that they are synced perfectly, they need to be redone Fox.

Laggy, before you say this song is doomed, please try out my 3 step difficulties; I think they are sync'd pretty well. Light and Standard are very similar, and the only reason I have Standard above Light is because I get more AA's on light than I do on standard.

Out of all three I enjoyed my Light mode the best. What is your opinion(s)?

http://www.freewebs.com/viper__snake/songs.htm

[Foxboy9x]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

how's about I just finish some heavy steps that are possible and leave oni for the peeps like moogy and zagh?

the steps for this were ridiculous when I downloaded it so I made my own, "not-so-impossible steps.

lol.
Your site transfers data at a slower pace....25% of file, 27% of file...I might have to wait an entire 2 minutes for it.

[ViperSnake]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

how's about I just finish some heavy steps that are possible and leave oni for the peeps like moogy and zagh?

lol.
Your site transfers data at a slower pace....25% of file, 27% of file...I might have to wait an entire 2 minutes for it.

Finish heavy and forget heavy? I think I could live with that.

I was editing my site with descriptions, that is actually talking about Blazing Corpse, not Blue Army lol. That might also be why its so slow for you since it takes only 1-2 seconds for me to download anything off of my site.

[Foxboy9x]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

finish heavy and forget oni is what i t'ink you meant. lol.
I kinda wanna put the old BG on. XD
But, meh, I have my original, challenge only version in an archival folder, so it's all good.
Btw i'm 3n a half mins thru heavy so hang on for like 10 mins while I delete excess arrows.

EDIT GF came over, simfile will be finished later.

[-Laggy-]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

All right ViperSnake, I tried your standard chart for blue army and I hate to tell you that it wasn't really any better from the oni that I tried. It honestly looked as if you had gone through the song once with record mode set to 64ths. With the bpm off by this much, you can't make a good file out of a song of this length (or pretty much any song for that matter). Let me give you guys some tips about simfile making:

If you intend to make a good sim, the bpm has to be the exact value as it should be, not an approximition. If you input a wrong bpm, you'll be stuck with having to use wrong types of notes as the chart gets more and more offbeat as the song carries on.

You need to learn a bit more about how songs like these are put together. Let's take blue army for example. The song does not have any 64ths/24ths/12ths so you're not supposed to put any of those in. The bass hits mostly 4th notes at 182.20 bpm, while the synth does mostly 16ths. Your charts were filled with notes that aren't in the song.

Songs have rhythms. Try to identify the types of rhythms found in the song instead of thinking that every single note is independent of others.

Hopefully this will be of some help =/.

[ViperSnake]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

Thanks for the advice Laggy. Did you try the Light mode steps though? They are better, I promise.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

Thanks for the advice Laggy. Did you try the Light mode steps though? They are better, I promise.

There is no way for them to be better, flat out. A poor syncing job affects all of the sets of steps, not just one. 2 BPM makes more of a difference than you might think. A simfile can be affected drastically by being off .01 BPM as long as it's longer than a minute or so. An accurate BPM is absolutely critical. Without that, there is no possible way for a simfile to be good.

Refer to what Laggy said about 24ths and crap not being in the song. If you were to step this with, say, quarter notes, it would be completely off tempo. If you did that, it would be absolutely awful. If you didn't, then you put crap like 24ths and weird green notes and all SORTS of offsync stuff.

An inaccurate BPM isn't just a flaw. It makes the file completely illegitimate. Remember that.

[Foxboy9x]

Re: Anyone up for blue army?

that would make sense. I found myself making steps that were definately not 16ths or 4ths
but is 2bpm really that big of a deal? after 6 minutes it would be off only by 12 beats....but lookin at it, 12 beats can be a little bit of a gap...
I guess this is what i get for not copying zagh's bpm. lol.