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  • #136
    FFR Player
    veryoldman
    • Apr 2008
    • 8

    Re: The Etterna Project

    Great build! Been using this religiously since you released the beta. I don't know if I overlooked this, but I've run into an issue. The files that I try to playtest my solo files in Etterna will only play the first draft of the file that was initially played in there and I can't "refresh" it to allow the newer updated versions to be played. Reload songs didn't help and there's no .old file in the folder. Is there an option that I didn't catch?

    K, so I just deleted my song cache and it updated, but this is kind of a slow process as I playtest really often. Is there an easier way to do this without having to delete the file from the cache every time I want to playtest an updated file? Again, I could be completely oblivious to some obvious way to do so, so please excuse me if there is.
    Last edited by veryoldman; 12-9-2016, 02:12 AM.

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    • #137
      FFR Player
      MinaciousGrace
      • Dec 2007
      • 4317

      Re: The Etterna Project

      control + shift + r with the relevant song selected at music select should do exactly what you want; one of the things I want to do later down the line is to bring visibility to the more useful but obscure features that the vanilla devs have implemented so perhaps the hard reload can be bound to double clicking on the selection or something similar

      e: actually what im saying im pretty sure f5 isn't bound to anything that would make so much more sense
      Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-9-2016, 08:47 AM.

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      • #138
        FFR Player
        MinaciousGrace
        • Dec 2007
        • 4317

        Re: The Etterna Project

        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
        so i poked around with this for a little bit and here's what I came up with; upon first moving a file/pack with only dwi files into your songs folder the game reads the dwi and converts them into .sm and drops them into their respective songs folders

        this process somehow manages to engage the calculator and properly cache the file without properly storing the results into the steps object, so when the theme tries to index the difficulties from the songs objects in memory there's an access violation crash

        on your subsequent load the files will instead be loaded from cache and they should work fine, even if you have caching disabled the game will search for the .sm it wrote to load from first before deferring to dwi

        tl;dr restarting the game should fix it and the files should be supported and i'll try to fix whatever is causing the crash (easiest way is just to initialize calculator results to 0s), if the game crashes after subsequent loads then there's a bigger problem which i can't reproduce
        ok i was 100% wrong about this, it'll be fixed properly in 0.52

        e: so it's kind of hard to tell what exactly is going on but basically the loading process will now convert all dwi files to .sm like I thought it did in the first place, though getting the files to load properly will require loading and caching the .dwi files first, letting it generate the .sm files, and then clearing the relevant cache files and letting it rebuild the cache again from the newly created .sm file

        this is obviously not an elegant solution but it'll work for now and hopefully I can figure out wtf is going on with their dwi loading system (and how we managed to break it) without much more effort
        Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 11:02 AM.

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        • #139
          FFR Veteran
          Casey2069
          • Sep 2016
          • 111

          Re: The Etterna Project

          Is there a way to delete a specific score so that my player rating goes down? I thought fail at end would give me a 0 ssr but it gave me 30 and now my rating is 22. Also is there a way to keep track of calories burned?
          http://i.imgur.com/8UE6ftw.gifv

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          • #140
            FFR Player
            dadcop2
            • Jan 2016
            • 229

            Re: The Etterna Project

            COMIC SAAAAAAAAAAAAANS

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            • #141
              FFR Player
              MinaciousGrace
              • Dec 2007
              • 4317

              Re: The Etterna Project

              Originally posted by Casey2069
              Is there a way to delete a specific score so that my player rating goes down? I thought fail at end would give me a 0 ssr but it gave me 30 and now my rating is 22. Also is there a way to keep track of calories burned?
              using fail at end should give a 0; if it doesn't that's a weird bug and I'll look into it

              currently there's no way to remove a specific score from your profile via the game interface, for now you can manually edit your stats.xml to remove any silly stuff provided you remember what you got it on

              i've been putting together things to view your 10 best scores and/or delete specific scores etc via the in game interface however they're unfinished and probably won't be packaged with the next release considering how much stuff i have to build

              the profile already keeps track of calories burned by default, with the assumption that you are playing with a dance pad

              the theme doesn't pull that information anywhere, but it is there
              Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 08:20 PM.

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              • #142
                FFR Veteran
                Casey2069
                • Sep 2016
                • 111

                Re: The Etterna Project

                Thanks for the quick reply! That's to bad there is no calories burned counter for keyboard play :'(
                Last edited by Casey2069; 12-11-2016, 08:42 PM.
                http://i.imgur.com/8UE6ftw.gifv

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                • #143
                  FFR Player
                  MinaciousGrace
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 4317

                  Re: The Etterna Project

                  well i mean i could fudge some numbers out of my ass and bake a cake with them, but it wouldn't really be helpful

                  my guess is you burn less than 5% of what you would playing on a keyboard as opposed to pad - but beyond that entirely baseless conjecture i don't really care to say
                  Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 09:02 PM.

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                  • #144
                    longing
                    Dinglesberry
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 2742

                    Re: The Etterna Project

                    just a suggestion, I think it'd be nice to consider some possible extra things for the song search, just simple things like perhaps being able to return songs greater than a certain length, or shorter... Lets say I want to play stamina files, I would just get all songs above x difficulty that are longer than however many minutes

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                    • #145
                      FFR Veteran
                      Casey2069
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 111

                      Re: The Etterna Project

                      I don't know much about the thermodynamics of the human body but maybe if Arch0wl sees this post he could figure it out will explain it.
                      Last edited by Casey2069; 12-11-2016, 09:31 PM.
                      http://i.imgur.com/8UE6ftw.gifv

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                      • #146
                        ur worst nitemare
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        lurker
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1659

                        Re: The Etterna Project

                        i too eagerly await more filtering options, this is getting a lil hype
                        some feathery f**k

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                        • #147
                          FFR Player
                          Celirra
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 749

                          Re: The Etterna Project

                          So, and I'm not sure if there's an easy way to implement this, or a good way to do such without slowdown, but is there any way to change the AA tracker (the + x.xx next to combo) so that instead of being based off 93% wife, it's based off your best wife %? Toggleable of course; I mostly think this'd be good for improving previous AA's as opposed to trying to remember you were +57.19 after 143 seconds of some JS file.

                          Also, one thing I miss about SCWH was an easy way to see the average NPS of a file, as well as the simfile author, etc on the song select screen... aka all the things that are hidden/incomplete with til' death. Any plans for this kind of update?


                          Also, ignore my previous issue with delay, it seems a-okay now.


                          Keep up the good work, friend.
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                          • #148
                            FFR Player
                            MinaciousGrace
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 4317

                            Re: The Etterna Project

                            yes to everything since my last post

                            although the cdtitle should accomplish displaying simfile author already

                            also i havent really planned out how to actually do the front end interface with more advanced search filters so it's very likely the initial implementation will be clunky as shit

                            ill mess with that tomorrow and you guys can probably expect 0.52 halfway through the week

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                            • #149
                              FFR Player
                              Celirra
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 749

                              Re: The Etterna Project

                              CDTitle thing is well and good, but its nice to be able to see the text version name of the simfile author too, like was available in scwh. Especially good for new charters with a non obvious cdtitle.
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                              • #150
                                FFR Player
                                MinaciousGrace
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 4317

                                Re: The Etterna Project

                                yeah i can do that, since i have to do something similar anyway in order to do search by simfile author
                                Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 10:49 PM.

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