Southern Cross [10 or 11]

[jimerax]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

I say 10, only difficulty factors in this is length (but not extremely long).

JS density/pattern and bursts @ 170bpm aren't FMO worthy, and they are basically intermittent so doesn't require stamina that much either.
Comparing JS parts, K8107 or Ambient Angels (currently rated FMO but quite borderline) are harder.

statistically don't have enough evidence for making this FMO, as far as I see.

[prefx]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

Soo, this section isn't community opinionized? Even if bumped up to an FMO it wouldn't mean you could get Oni off it. I have a worse score on this song than I have on Frictional Nevada. There's no negative repercussion of bumping it to an 11, and it's almost straight-forward agreeance throughout the community in this thread. I'd say 11 for sure. Especially since I've played this files since I was a masher, D2 quality, D3 quality, and now D4/D5 quality, I've seen the file from all perspectives, and Yes it's fairly straightforward, but JS is in my opinion one of the hardest techniques to master. I had so much trouble on this before I started playing SM and FFR upward of like 6 hours a day. In my honest opinion I stand firm that this is an FMO

[Arbliterator]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

I didn't find this song very hard (and I'm not exactly the greatest at JS) or stamina draining after achieving D4 status. There's other songs I find quite considerably harder that are still 10s such as bus rides with people and vertex beta. I say high 10 is appropriate for this song.

[Hairy Cabbage]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

K8107 or Ambient Angels (currently rated FMO but quite borderline)

PS you bumped K8107 down to a 10 ALONG time ago... for some reason, so i dont think u can say its an FMO ;P

and on topic, i dont see why alot of the songs were bumped down in the first place, surely players skill advancing over time shouldent effect previous song difficulties.

id like to see this reverted back to an FMO.

[jarsh]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

I've always thought Southern Cross should be an FMO. Definitely no easier than Novo Mundo or Hajnal for example.

[jprox445]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

Definitely an FMO.
JS patterns are very dense X__X
IMO Ambient angels is FAAAAR easier then this.

Ambient Angels Score -under 20
S.C. - over 40

[popsicle_3000]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

FMO: fast weird js that never ends!!! too fast and long to be a 10

[Jerry DB]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

I think it's a low 11

there are some pretty tricky parts and although most of the patterns can be straightforward, there are still a bunch that are tricky and can easily throw you off combined with the song length. Especially the part right after 1000 combo I feel like that is what bumps it up from high 10

[Winrar]

Re: Southern Cross [10 or 11]

I'm pretty sure a lot of the veterans used to play index or have tried it at least once. JS is one of the hardest patterns as index which is probably why it was an FMO in the first place. I still treat it as an 11.