Definition of SDG

[Magicturbo]

Re: Definition of SDG

assuming of course that the score was a pass and not something too ridiculous (8-40-900-30 or something ==)

See, that's when things can get fuzzy. There's obviously a general line between ridiculous and not, but this "general line" allows for subjectivity and opinion.

Definition =/= opinion

The second option suggests 9-200-300-400 is an SDG. While an unlikely score, loopholes like this still shouldn't be possible to be described as correct by a definition.

[benguino]

Re: Definition of SDG

I fail to see your point however, because everyone has their own opinion, conscious or sub-conscious, about the definition of any given word or phrase. Definitions are not created in nature, they are manifested and evolved through our interactions with others, and hence aren't set in stone.

Anyways, I prefer the 2nd definition on the list, considering it is the most literal. Although, I'm rather biased since I miss a lot, which is the main reason why I support the 2nd definition so much. xD

[The_Toymaker]

Re: Definition of SDG

single digit greats.

[FrozenAngel91]

Re: Definition of SDG

Anyways, I prefer the 2nd definition on the list, considering it is the most literal. Although, I'm rather biased since I miss a lot, which is the main reason why I support the 2nd definition so much. xD

I think I'm getting a little bit confused on this. The third option is raw scoring right?

So isn't a score like 0-0-4-0 still considered an sdg?

[benguino]

Re: Definition of SDG

I think I'm getting a little bit confused on this. The third option is raw scoring right?

So isn't a score like 0-0-4-0 still considered an sdg?

Oh yeah, I'm just saying that my high-sdg's with one miss and mid-sdg's with multiple misses on fmo's wouldn't be counted in the 3rd definition and my fmo "sdg" list would be much shorter. xD

[irionman]

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The name should give it away. Single - Digit - Good. The 250 thing shouldn't matter; if there are avg/boos in there, it's not a SDG in my books.

[benguino]

Re: Definition of SDG

The name should give it away. Single - Digit - Good. The 250 thing shouldn't matter; if there are avg/boos in there, it's not a SDG in my books.

Yeah, the name is single-digit-good, not single-digit-good-with-no-misses-and-no-boos-and-no-averages. What the acronym stands for makes no reference whatsoever to misses, boos, and averages; therefore they shouldn't be considered. (My logic behind my opinion)

[FrozenAngel91]

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Oh yeah, I'm just saying that my high-sdg's with one miss and mid-sdg's with multiple misses on fmo's wouldn't be counted in the 3rd definition and my fmo "sdg" list would be much shorter. xD

Ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up. Though I don't think your list would be that much shorter, I thought you had really low good counts on most of those sdg's.

On topic: I went with option 3 for this one, mostly because I think the defining line on option 3 is a little more clear. I wouldn't quite know exactly what I got if I saw an SDG with option 2, but I'd know for sure I was at least under 250 raw scoring for the other one.

I really don't like option 1 though, if I had to quit out of a song while going for the sdg because I got 1 boo I would kill myself.

P.S: If option 2 is selected, you are required to pass the song correct?

[Magicturbo]

Re: Definition of SDG

I fail to see your point however, because everyone has their own opinion, conscious or sub-conscious, about the definition of any given word or phrase. Definitions are not created in nature, they are manifested and evolved through our interactions with others, and hence aren't set in stone.

Anyways, I prefer the 2nd definition on the list, considering it is the most literal. Although, I'm rather biased since I miss a lot, which is the main reason why I support the 2nd definition so much. xD

The game's code is not opinionated. The game's code is set in stone.

By definition of Option 2, you're fine with a 9-46-543-23 as an SDG?


Is that not flawed?

[benguino]

Re: Definition of SDG

The game's code is not opinionated. The game's code is set in stone.

By definition of Option 2, you're fine with a 9-46-543-23 as an SDG?


Is that not flawed?

The developers of the game's code is opinionated. The game's code can always change. Plus, the game's code doesn't determine the colloquial use of the term either. I don't mind if option 3 gets implemented, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still free to define the term for myself for my own personal usage.

[FrozenAngel91]

Re: Definition of SDG

The game's code is not opinionated. The game's code is set in stone.

By definition of Option 2, you're fine with a 9-46-543-23 as an SDG?


Is that not flawed?

I actually thought about this for a bit, and this isn't such a huge problem if you're required to pass the song.

The chances of you being able to get below 10 goods but then have ridiculous numbers of everything else would be extremely small, I mean how do you get a ton of averages but no goods without trying? It's practically antiskill at that point, and probably wouldn't be a big deal if you did get an sdg display for it.

However if you could just hit the first note of the song and then fail out then it becomes a problem.

Edit: Just realized you could potentially only use the right and up arrow or something, perfect the whole song, and get a score like 444-0-497-0 and that would count, so uh yeah....

Double Edit: Whoops, this was already discussed and was not even what was being argued. Apparently I should read the thread before posting, going to bed now >.<

[benguino]

Re: Definition of SDG

I actually thought about this for a bit, and this isn't such a huge problem if you're required to pass the song.

The chances of you being able to get below 10 goods but then have ridiculous numbers of everything else would be extremely small, I mean how do you get a ton of averages but no goods without trying? It's practically antiskill at that point, and probably wouldn't be a big deal if you did get an sdg display for it.

However if you could just hit the first note of the song and then fail out then it becomes a problem.

Edit: Just realized you could potentially only hit the right and up arrow or something, perfect the whole song, and get a score like 444-0-497-0 and that would count, so uh yeah....

Well, the sdg feature in the engine is just for the purpose of letting you know which songs you have sdg'ed, you aren't going to get anything special with every sdg you get. xD Sure, if option 2 was implemented, you could get something like 5-1-300-3 to have the sdg displayed, but you aren't really doing yourself a favor by doing so. (Of course, I think passing the song should be a requirement for all the options listed above for obvious purposes :P)

[iironiic]

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I would stick with Option 3. If this was for coding purposes, then Option 3 would be ideal under the assumption that one FC's the file. My horrific 9-1-0-7 on Halcyon [Xi] would be considered an SDG for the first two choices, but to me, that wouldn't make sense if a non-SDG score beats an SDG score. 10 clean beats my score in this case.

However, I honestly don't see the importance of SDGs. Getting 9 clean vs. 10 clean on a song shouldn't be anything drastic than getting a AAA vs. BF. I understand that it may be a sense of achievement for some, but being happy about the scores you are getting is enough to make me proud. I guess it's just the difference of interpretation for measuring what we would consider successful.

[kmay]

Re: Definition of SDG

9-0-0-4 or better.

[CammyGoesRawr]

Re: Definition of SDG

I would personally define it as less than 250 points from a AAA. (synonymously, 9-0-0-4 or better)