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  • Gilly G
    FFR Veteran
    • Mar 2007
    • 1225

    #46
    Re: Worst batch of new songs?

    I personally find songs such as RATO quite difficult, but only because it is a problem of reading. I can do fine on 240 bpm JS on SM, yet FFR kind of gets annoying at 220+. The issue in my case would be the difficulty of reading the arrows on FFR opposed to those on SM. The arrows are thick and the speedmods not always exactly fitting to users. I would personally very much enjoy the new subbie mods considering 1.75x remains too slow yet 2.0x too quick.

    I am sure that for most SM regulars, if they played the file on SM, would not find it to be a problem for them to MA/combo/read it. FFR makes the game much harder than it should be because the thickness of the arrows sticks them close together and so FFR sucks when it comes to reading dumps of arrows. Sure, RATO may be perfectly in pitch with the song, nonetheless if FFR makes it difficult to read, surely many people will complain (which I believe is already the case).

    But I suppose these types of obstacles are always overcome with time and sooner or later, people will just get better, or certain updates will make the game easier.

    Not sure if the latter is a good or bad thing.

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    • Izzy
      Snek
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2003
      • 9195

      #47
      Re: Worst batch of new songs?

      FFR has always sucked, what is new about this?

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      • Plan_Bsk81127
        snooches
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2007
        • 6420

        #48
        Re: Worst batch of new songs?

        Man, people who complain that FFR files are hard would die in the SM community, like Dood said, these types of songs are played by them on a normal basis. So maybe all you complainers need to go play SM for awhile, then when you come back and can actually do these files, you will feel like such an ass for crying over hard songs coming out in the past.

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        • qqwref
          stepmania archaeologist
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 4092

          #49
          Re: Worst batch of new songs?

          Originally posted by dood gone krazee
          it just really pisses me off when they complain about it being too hard, or try to brag about it when you can blatantly tell its a mash score.
          Again, it's just people being not as good as you are (that and combo scoring). If most people could DDG FGOs (or play RATO without mashing) they would do that without a doubt, but they can't, so they're proud of a good score for them, considering what they CAN get. Do you also get mad when people are happy about getting 50 goods on their first VC FC? It's not like the first day you played SM you were already AAA'ing jumpstream.

          Originally posted by dood gone krazee
          Jesus ****ing christ. Another reason I hate FFR. Most people think they know ****ing everything and try to contradict other users in order to enlarge their e-penis.
          You misunderstand me. I'm not arguing because I know you're wrong and want to claim intellectual superiority by proving it; I'm arguing because I disagree with you and wanted to point out that there was someone around with a contrary opinion (well, that and the fact that I enjoy arguing). In addition, I don't think I know everything, but I've played more than enough SM to know when a file I can't do even remotely well on is fun, and I honestly don't think RATO is.
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          • Flaming_Dingleberry
            Everybody gets one.
            • Jul 2006
            • 1008

            #50
            Re: Worst batch of new songs?

            Originally posted by dood gone krazee
            I hate how if people can't easily AAA a file its automatically a bad file.
            I don't like it when you dis the entire FFR community, the feeling I get is equivalent to how you feel when people complain about difficulty.

            Originally posted by dood gone krazee
            I ****ing hate FFR. Why am I still here. Mostly everyone here are total dumbasses. >___>
            There are a lot of really cool people here, and you're one of them D: It is true that most of the FFR community are terrible at the game and have poor judgment on just about everything, but most of those people don't participate in anything around here. Most of the people that are logged in at any given time are either God at FFR, outrageously intelligent, or really social and/or funny... there are definitely some really stupid people here, but there isn't one place on earth that doesn't have a group of idiots. This is my home, quit disrespecting me bro.

            J'ai Envie is one of my favorite files at the moment, FFR has given me a goal. If you're not good enough for it, set easier goals idiots.
            Last edited by Flaming_Dingleberry; 06-30-2009, 08:18 PM.
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            • who_cares973
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 15407

              #51
              Re: Worst batch of new songs?

              Originally posted by dood gone krazee

              And don't try and look like a smartass. I was telling who_cares to try and slow it down to x0.5 in an editor, because if I remember correctly I had sent it to him to test a few months back, before I even sent it in to the batch. "O Arrogant One" here knows that you can't slow down FFR, and I wasn't talking about slowing it down in game, asshole.
              you never sent me the file because i never requested to test it lol



              but send it to me i want to check it out :U

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              • MrMagic5239
                FFR Veteran
                • Feb 2007
                • 4096

                #52
                Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                Originally posted by Izzy
                FFR has always sucked, what is new about this?
                Could be why you found it interesting for 6 months. Yeahk lolz
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                • dood gone krazee
                  RATOOOOOOOOO
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2007
                  • 1939

                  #53
                  Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                  Originally posted by qqwref
                  Again, it's just people being not as good as you are (that and combo scoring). If most people could DDG FGOs (or play RATO without mashing) they would do that without a doubt, but they can't, so they're proud of a good score for them, considering what they CAN get. Do you also get mad when people are happy about getting 50 goods on their first VC FC? It's not like the first day you played SM you were already AAA'ing jumpstream.
                  I'm fine with 50 goods on their first VC FC, its just the fact that people think that FC'ing a hard song with a ****load of boos is amazingly good.

                  Flaming, I understand most people here are cool, I've never had a problem with you, its just select few people here who use the forums are quite an annoyance.
                  -4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-

                  Originally posted by Sir_Thomas
                  Dood... you done gone got yourself krazee.
                  Originally posted by robertsona
                  I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                  "[++] 9/10
                  Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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                  • MinaciousGrace
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 4278

                    #54
                    Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                    Gilly is correct

                    it is not the file it is the medium in which you play the file

                    also I played ffr for like 2 hours today and it's probably gonna take a week of serious stepmania to repair the damage grr

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                    • TC_Halogen
                      Rhythm game specialist.
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 19376

                      #55
                      Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                      Originally posted by qqwref


                      Are you guys talking about me ?_?
                      I'm not talking about you, I was saying QQ to original post.

                      I think you're pretty cool, haha. At least when you prove a point, you do it thoroughly, not complaining like the OP. xD

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                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #56
                        Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                        Ok--you know what, double post because I just seen this stupid post.

                        Originally posted by dood gone krazee
                        Haha, you're funny. I only hate FFR because most players aren't good enough to hit 240bpm JS accurately, and therefore mash. Then when they go complain how the file is too hard for FFR because they don't know how to move their fingers fast enough, and then go around bragging about an FC on the file a month later when it has 2000+ boos in the score.

                        I understand FFR is based on combo scoring, which is another reason I don't play it as much anymore. But, it is part of the game engine so there's no real use complaining about it. I also don't care if people go around mashing files to get a high score, it just really pisses me off when they complain about it being too hard, or try to brag about it when you can blatantly tell its a mash score.

                        An opinion of a file is an opinion. I don't give a flying **** if people think its a dump, because it really isn't. A technical dump it may be since it is at 240bpm, but it is still a file.

                        And don't try and look like a smartass. I was telling who_cares to try and slow it down to x0.5 in an editor, because if I remember correctly I had sent it to him to test a few months back, before I even sent it in to the batch. "O Arrogant One" here knows that you can't slow down FFR, and I wasn't talking about slowing it down in game, asshole.

                        Jesus ****ing christ. Another reason I hate FFR. Most people think they know ****ing everything and try to contradict other users in order to enlarge their e-penis.

                        I should make a RATO vFFR that's piss-easy just to make people happy.

                        @ dood gone krazee

                        1.) Stop acting like you're the best step-chart artist on FFR, because you're clearly not.

                        2.) I don't give a rat's ass if RATO is 100% accurate. If making 48th walls at 240 BPM is fun to you, then keep it at SM and keep it out of FFR. Yes, you sent it to try it out. Yes, I approved of it then. I didn't remember you saying that you were going to send it to FFR, I thought it was just an FFR chart.

                        Originally posted by dood gone krazee
                        Haha, you're funny. I only hate FFR because most players aren't good enough to hit 240bpm JS accurately, and therefore mash. Then when they go complain how the file is too hard for FFR because they don't know how to move their fingers fast enough, and then go around bragging about an FC on the file a month later when it has 2000+ boos in the score.
                        I can do it--you have a problem? The file still is too hard for FFR since you decided to step it to every stupid sound sample found in the retarded Terminal 11 piece of crap song. There, you happy?

                        Originally posted by dood gone krazee
                        I understand FFR is based on combo scoring, which is another reason I don't play it as much anymore. But, it is part of the game engine so there's no real use complaining about it. I also don't care if people go around mashing files to get a high score, it just really pisses me off when they complain about it being too hard, or try to brag about it when you can blatantly tell its a mash score.
                        If you don't play FFR because of the combo scoring system--because noobs can get high scores while mashing, sure, I can see that. But you obviously aren't taking a step further in your thought process, otherwise you would see that the scoring is against those noobs as well, for mashing reduces their score very badly while pros can get higher scores without thinking about it (not trying to sound elitist here). We wouldn't have to blatantly tell if it was a mash score had the file been a lot less over-stepped.

                        Originally posted by dood gone krazee
                        An opinion of a file is an opinion. I don't give a flying **** if people think its a dump, because it really isn't. A technical dump it may be since it is at 240bpm, but it is still a file.
                        Nah, 240 BPM 48th walls (mind you, that's nearly THREE THOUSAND TAPS A MINUTE) isn't dumpy at all. It really isn't.

                        ...I can't be any more sarcastic than that.

                        Originally posted by dood gone krazee
                        Jesus ****ing christ. Another reason I hate FFR. Most people think they know ****ing everything and try to contradict other users in order to enlarge their e-penis.

                        I should make a RATO vFFR that's piss-easy just to make people happy.
                        Oh, look who's the hypocrite. You obviously think that your file is fun on here when clearly everyone hates it, and then you try to prove your point about it being 100% accurate to each and every sound sample when it really doesn't matter.

                        You obviously defend RATO like this e-penis you keep mentioning.

                        Do you honestly want to keep going?
                        Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-30-2009, 09:38 PM.

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                        • Plan_Bsk81127
                          snooches
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6420

                          #57
                          Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                          Damn, this is getting serious fo sho.

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                          • who_cares973
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 15407

                            #58
                            Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                            just checked out rato and it isnt 100% technical and i knew there were some notes that went to nothing 8)

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                            • TC_Halogen
                              Rhythm game specialist.
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 19376

                              #59
                              Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                              Originally posted by Plan_Bsk81127
                              Damn, this is getting serious fo sho.
                              Because there's nothing more I hate than an egotistical person who acts the way they do for a stupid reason.

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                              • qqwref
                                stepmania archaeologist
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 4092

                                #60
                                Re: Worst batch of new songs?

                                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                                I'm not talking about you, I was saying QQ to original post.
                                The thing is, in some places people call me qq (short for my nickname, because nobody can spell it :P), so I thought you might've been referring to me. I probably do complain a lot more than I should.
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