Ingame Song Information

[awein999]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Ievan Polkka, mid VC at hardest. Compare that to VC's that have been released recently, it's significantly easier than run through the stream of time and bus rides with people. It's a fairly short song too.

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

i c wut u gaiz r duin

[[TeRa]]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

starlight isn't harder than polka lol. polka is vc though
nwe, silence, black key, summertime perf should be vcs also, probably jeanie also, i could see that as the lowest FMO though

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Ievan Polkka has got to be the easiest FMO in existence. It can't even be compared to NWE. 73 or 74 at most.
I know I can AAA it, I just couldn't play it seriously because my mother was at home and she hates the noise.

[qqwref]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

you guys need to stop judging files based on how well you can do. Ievan Polkka is an fmo. most people that play ffr dont play sm and arent used to jacks which makes this file difficult hell it took me an assload of tries just to fc it because im not used to them in ffr

My procedure for judging file difficulties at this point is basically
- Take how hard I think it is
- Subtract anywhere from 0 to 3 difficulty levels depending on how many jacks there are
Hence Club and AIM ought to be 10s because I think they're 13s but they get a -3 modifier.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

@[Tera], I agree with all of those except that Summertime should definitely remain FMO, just an easy one. And yeah, Jeanie should be VC, easiest FMO other than Polka, but seriously, why did anyone think Polka was FMO? Even with the 3-framers, Turkish March is harder (I was kidding about starlight)

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

nwe, silence, black key, summertime perf should be vcs also, probably jeanie also, i could see that as the lowest FMO though

Yes, yes, yes, maybe (the definition of borderline between VC/FMO imo) and yes.

And Ievan is most definitely a VC.

[IgroMAN]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I agree that Polka is VC, but let me AAA it first and then do anything you want. Also I got 1-0-0-2 and it tells that song isnt too easy.

[Utukku]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Turkish march is at least 2 points harder than Ievan Polkka imo.

Also, for the FMOs being VCs story, I cant understand how you can put STP easier than both LWs, Choprite or Southern Cross.

I agree that Silence and Jeanie are more VCs than FMOs, and I suck at NWE but with all those AAAs it could be a VC too.

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Just a comment about the "Those FMOs are supposed to be VCs" thing.
Borderline songs are supposed to exist. If all the 76 become VCs, after that, people will start saying that Lawn Wake IV should be VC too, because the borderline song difficulty will also increase. I don't think that makes much sense.

[TC_Halogen]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Lawn Wake IV should be VC too.

[qqwref]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Watch as we come back in a year and people are saying "4 Chord should be mid VC". I'm not kidding. I'd really like to have some kind of objective standard (for instance "a VC should be no faster than [song 1], and no harder to PA than [song 2], and have no more jacks than [song 3]") so we don't have to keep pushing songs down every time people get better.

Sometimes I feel that people are comparing easy FMOs to mid/hard FMOs (and then deciding they're too easy to be FMO)... and maybe if the FMO range wasn't so wide we wouldn't have this problem so much.

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Watch as we come back in a year and people are saying "4 Chord should be mid VC". I'm not kidding. I'd really like to have some kind of objective standard (for instance "a VC should be no faster than [song 1], and no harder to PA than [song 2], and have no more jacks than [song 3]") so we don't have to keep pushing songs down every time people get better.

Sometimes I feel that people are comparing easy FMOs to mid/hard FMOs (and then deciding they're too easy to be FMO)... and maybe if the FMO range wasn't so wide we wouldn't have this problem so much.

That's what I'm talking about. There has to be an absolute difficulty for the borderline songs, they're just too undefined.

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Watch as we come back in a year and people are saying "4 Chord should be mid VC". I'm not kidding. I'd really like to have some kind of objective standard (for instance "a VC should be no faster than [song 1], and no harder to PA than [song 2], and have no more jacks than [song 3]") so we don't have to keep pushing songs down every time people get better.

Sometimes I feel that people are comparing easy FMOs to mid/hard FMOs (and then deciding they're too easy to be FMO)... and maybe if the FMO range wasn't so wide we wouldn't have this problem so much.

FINALLY someone that knows whats going on here

[Quigly]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Lawn Wake IV should be VC too.

No that's the only FMO I have a chance of AAAing. :<