The Miss System: Part 3

[Freak83]

What all of you have said I'm sure is very interesting. But I'm too lazy to read any of it.

[CMCAdvanced]

I say if you don't like it, make your OWN game.

Can't, too lazy.

[Arch0wl]

Uh..
Nesle, I don't know about 5 key, but in 7 key IIDX you only get a poor if the notes are like, 1 bar away. I press notes all the time randomly and I don't get poors.

Also, in beatmania IIDX, you can still get a poor and STILL continue your combo. I do it all the time.

I think the miss system should be tweaked, really.

Or, an alternate suggestion:

Change the scoring system, towhere it's not so heavily based on misses.

I know I've said this alot, but I swear all the time this happens to me, I just play a song and out of nowhere I get a miss. I'm pressing arrows normally, and in like a millisecond after the arrow is already recieved as a good or perfect I get a miss. And yes, I hit the arrow fine. I know when I actually miss or not.

[CMCAdvanced]

It some time skips for me. I hate it when I get a really good combo, and then the arrows somehow skip.

Messes my groove up. 8)

[Arch0wl]

It some time skips for me. I hate it when I get a really good combo, and then the arrows somehow skip.

Messes my groove up. 8)

Same... and it's just spontaneous, out of nowhere skipping, not "Oh my god, I know this song is going to lag" from the start skipping.

[nestlekwik]

Uh..
Nestle, I don't know about 5 key, but in 7 key IIDX you only get a poor if the notes are like, 1 bar away. I press notes all the time randomly and I don't get poors.

Also, in beatmania IIDX, you can still get a poor and STILL continue your combo. I do it all the time.

Yes. From 5-Key to 7-Key it was tweaked a little bit and in 7-Key, your combo remains. It was changed too in the later versions of 5-Key, but 5-Key is pretty much dead now. In 5-Key, basically if there was a note to play on the screen and you pressed the button, you got a poor rating.

[Arch0wl]

Oh, well the only 5 key I've played is Core mix and in that one it doesn't do it... anyways, I think the scores should be changed so a miss really doesn't matter so it's like not getting a perfect or whatever... I think the scoring system should be heavily based on how many perfects/goods you got

[dave]

My computer is running so slow to day god

[nestlekwik]

Oh, well the only 5 key I've played is Core mix and in that one it doesn't do it... anyways, I think the scores should be changed so a miss really doesn't matter so it's like not getting a perfect or whatever... I think the scoring system should be heavily based on how many perfects/goods you got

The scoring system change is something I've pushed for. Supposedly, though, there is some sort of new scoring method in remix. I've documented reasons why the tournaments, definately, should not run on the combo scoring. I, too, think the scoring should be based on perfects/goods/averages instead of the combo.

[dave]

humm do tell ¿Ö¿

[Kashell]

How about, instead of accually trying to solve the problem directly, use the indirect approach?


Like, a counterbalance.


Instead of changing misses, and how they work, change how perfects work.

Change perfects so they give two steps up on the scale rather than just one.

Problem solved.

[JiN_]

well i was just gonna go post in the other one but it was locked so it might be out of topic. ok i play ddr everyday in my lil household and well i dont like the miss system it should be like ddr what it says in the instructions is and i'm quoting "You are not penalized for hitting the incorrect dance steps you are penalized for not hitting the correct dance steps." which means u hit an arrow its the wrong arrow u get a good missing the arrow completely will be a miss get it? i hope this wasn't a waste of my time yeah? oh and sorry for the out of topicness ppl

[dave]

Kool hope u enjoy your stay at the forums