How the tournament should have gone.

[dragonmegaXX]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

I would prefer to stay in 1 division for a while.
If a person get a skill boost in the middle of tournament, good for them, they worked for it.

Theres a difference in a person being good for a divison, and a blatant misplacement to begin with. There always has to be someone whos best, and doing this just ruins kind of the point of trying to be the best, because as soon as you become the best, your thrown somewhere else to be the worst, and considering 90% of us wont reach AJ or Rubix level godness, we want some claim to fame for our skill level.

[tj28]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Bump the eliminated players down? What does that even mean? Now they're eliminated in division 2 instead of eliminated in division 3?

If you were eliminated in D3 at rank 10, and someone gets moved to D3, you would move to rank 11 and they would take your place. This is assuming you just missed the cutoff.

This would cause a chain reaction and cause all of the other eliminated players in that division to go down a single rank.

The cutoffs can't be predetermined with this, the amount of players in each division is unpredictable.

[Sprite-]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Lol dev, I was going to change the title too, but I forgot.

[tj28]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

I would prefer to stay in 1 division for a while.
If a person get a skill boost in the middle of tournament, good for them, they worked for it.

Theres a difference in a person being good for a divison, and a blatant misplacement to begin with. There always has to be someone whos best, and doing this just ruins kind of the point of trying to be the best, because as soon as you become the best, your thrown somewhere else to be the worst, and considering 90% of us wont reach AJ or Rubix level godness, we want some claim to fame for our skill level.

The thing with this is, the best in a division wouldn't be ridiculously better than the other players in the same division.

If you get moved up, there was a reason, and your skill level would be good enough to compete in that division.

You need to remember there are ten divisions, and going up one division wouldn't be as nearly as major as going one up in the current style.

[tj28]

Re: How the tournament should of went.

But in that case, how do you determine, say, whether I'm too good for my division, or just whether my division has many people placed too high?

As in, what are your standards for divisions to determine whether it's a case of good people needing to go up, or bad people needing to go down?

Also, all you'd be creating is a situation where someone tries to sup the current top score by as little as possible, and then sits on it until someone does the same to them. There's no benefit to working your ass off to try and get that AAA since if you do that more than others in your division, you'll get moved up to where you'll lose.

Also, fixed the horrendous grammar in the thread title. It was making me cringe every time I saw it.

There would be a general idea of what a D1-D10 player could do, such as what we have now. If you were above that than you'd be bumped up.
Original placements wouldn't last long, and if many people were placed too high then they'd be moved. The divisions wouldn't be as big, so this shouldn't be the case.

The situation made would risk the person trying to sandbag that division to get supped at the last minute.
Most of the BS'ers I assume are alts, and aren't on daily.

Edit: Sorry about the title, I wasn't paying attention.

[dragonmegaXX]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

The thing with this is, the best in a division wouldn't be ridiculously better than the other players in the same division.

If you get moved up, there was a reason, and your skill level would be good enough to compete in that division.

You need to remember there are ten divisions, and going up one division wouldn't be as nearly as major as going one up in the current style.

Here comes some points of a tournament. Its to try to be the best.
I know if I was in a tournament run like this, I wouldnt be very motivated, because I knew that if I got an amazing score, I would be moved up to a different division where my score would have been sub-par, therefore ruining any excitement, and also, I doubt someone would be good enough to shift more than 2 division in a 1-10 scale anyway. Its not like some original D2 is going to magically bounce to D6 or 7 anyway, so this is pretty inefficient in my opinion.
There are some people who may like this, but you are also going to get more "this is bs" because 2nd place in D1-9 is going to say 1st should have been in the next division up

bolded because I like this statement.

[devonin]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Also, what you're saying is "Instead of trying to actually rank people based on their stats and scores in advance of the tourney starting, I'm going to try to sort them all, as I go, on the fly" Have fun doing that with 1000-1200 participants.

[tj28]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Here comes some points of a tournament. Its to try to be the best.
I know if I was in a tournament run like this, I wouldnt be very motivated, because I knew that if I got an amazing score, I would be moved up to a different division where my score would have been sub-par, therefore ruining any excitement, and also, I doubt someone would be good enough to shift more than 2 division in a 1-10 scale anyway. Its not like some original D2 is going to magically bounce to D6 or 7 anyway, so this is pretty inefficient in my opinion.
There are some people who may like this, but you are also going to get more "this is bs" because 2nd place in D1-9 is going to say 1st should have been in the next division up

bolded because I like this statement.

Well, you'd need to do good enough to stay above elimination, and it would be tight.

The top two players would be of similar skill level, so it wouldn't be "BS" if the winner got a few less goods.
If they were fit for the next division up they would be there.

And moving many divisions is very possible, I was borderline D2/D3 IMO at the beginning of this tournament, and I'm now borderline D4.
Which would be 3-4 divisions up in this tournament.

[tj28]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Also, what you're saying is "Instead of trying to actually rank people based on their stats and scores in advance of the tourney starting, I'm going to try to sort them all, as I go, on the fly" Have fun doing that with 1000-1200 participants.

Obviously a 1k+ participant tournament cannot be ran smoothly by two people, it would require a team of people to do this.

It would definitely be hard, but not impossible. There are plenty of active players to pull it off.

[devonin]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

And then all the people disagreing over who needs to be moved or not, having personal biases about the players interfere with their objectivity etc etc.

[tj28]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

And then all the people disagreing over who needs to be moved or not, having personal biases about the players interfere with their objectivity etc etc.

I'm not nitpicking here, if a player is obviously better than the rest then he/she will be moved.
You wouldn't get moved for being a tad better than the rest.

[devonin]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Even a phrase like "obviously better" is severely open to interpretation.

[OneHandNow]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Would take too much work.
No one is dedicated that much to FFR.

[Silver_Brian]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

You can say you are but once you start doing it you'll have your doubts.

[psychoangel691]

Re: How the tournament should have gone.

There is no true way to eliminate cheaters and sandbaggers. Its gonna happen no matter what you do. The only thing that can be done is DQing people if it is believed they are cheating. But then if they're not cheating it sucks for them. It just amazes me that people want to cheat. A tourney for me is a way to show myself how well I'm doing and earning my place not the prizes.