Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[Xception704]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

When you write solid blocks of text that instantly turn people off, you invite people to "blatantly ignore" your comments.

[Silver_Brian]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

On the other hand, my view is this:
With all these rules and guidelines, I'm AMAZED a file that ****ty got through. Honestly what the ****ing hell were both of you thinking.

u dont lyk mai filz?

Oh gosh ... CIA Rave v2 ...looking forward to it ... but I'm wondering how hard it's going to be.

It's for noobs. It's really easy. Sorry if you were expecting something harder.
I was thinking the game needed some balance.

[GamerShadow]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Break them up into single posts... and save them for later.

It makes it more digestible.

[Cyanite]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Honestly, step 20 files next time. No, step 40. I'm sure that that is the ticket to success for you. If you feel like you've discovered the formula, become a FFR-worthy stepfile author, and have climbed the learning curve of stepfiling, then submit in bulk. I'm sure all your **** will end up in the queue just like all the other heavy hitters.

Cyanite definitely has potential...going into it, I was like "****ing ass... this little whore sent me 11 ****ty ass files..." and then I played them, and was like... "Hmm... he's getting better. These files aren't amazing... could use a few mix ups here and there... but overall are MUCH MUCH better than the files from even a week earlier." And, you already managed your first file in queue.

Oh

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

I mean, we all can't be close friends with a stepfiling genius, like Shash.

Your opinion now officially has ZERO value.

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Hey Mr. Vote4, take a look at any one of your replys and look at how attractive it is and how much you want to read it.

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

In all fairness to Vote4Nixon, he has made a few good points.
1. Judging is killing creativity for everyone
2. "Newbs" have a harder time catching up in skill to the well known authors
3. Judges are hiding behind the excuse "we weren't as strict then"

HOWEVER:
The validity of a select few your points does not excuse you for your whining, crude language, and arrogant speech, nor does it mean that anything can or will be done about any of these issues.

EDIT-

u dont lyk mai filz?

Hell no, I don't like that one!

[Cyanite]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

2. "Newbs" have a harder time catching up in skill to the well known authors

How so?

I wouldn't even begin to compare my talent with that of the well known authors but I'm still not having any difficulty catching up. Maybe it's a difference in perspective but whether a file of mine gets accepted or not, it's still a file, which is still giving me learned experience in file making.

As far as new stepfile authors having trouble getting their songs in, I don't see how the well known authors have anything to do with it.

[Kotarouchan]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

It's not whining, I apologized for my crude language (you overt hypocrite, why don't you tone down your language before accusing others), and I'm not the one sounding arrogant here. Combining thoughts into longer sentences and using "bigger" words (as long as they're used appropriately) is by no means arrogance.

And since the start I've been saying that nothing can or will be done about the system.

EDIT: shortest post yet! HOORAYY!!! And to Mr. MooMoo, I don't mind lengthy discourses, as long as it's somewhat stimulating.

1. You are whining.
2. You tone down, because your word usage makes you sound like your berating.
3. If you don't like the system, then convert to it.
4. Trust me, you're probably the only one here who likes reading essays.

[Xception704]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

1. You are whining.
2. You tone down, because your word usage makes you sound like your berating.
3. If you don't like the system, then convert to it.
4. Trust me, you're probably the only one here who likes reading essays.

Agreed.

Is there a such thing as a topic ban?

Or I know there's an option to allow a user to only have his posts show up in a certain forum if a moderator+ approves it.

It's going to be a long shot, but it'd make me (and I'm sure a few others) incredibly happy if it were to be implemented.

[GamerShadow]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Topic Ban?

Interesting... so, you couldn't talk about
"Spread players suck!" If the admins said so?

[Shashakiro]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Man, some of these complaints suck.

I'm really amused by the comments that our judging is taking away "creativity" from filemakers. Do you guys think we're like "OMG, this file is DIFFERENT and ORIGINAL! reject reject reject"? Yeah, no. We outright reject files because we think they're BAD, not because we think they're different. We require minor edits because we think that a particular part of your file is BAD. Not different, not creative...bad. Or at least "could be better".

I fail to see how we're "suppressing creativity" in any way. Do you guys really think throwing in random jumps all over the place in a file is creative? *cough*EHHS/Pants*cough*. If a file is overstepped, but in a way that fits the energy of the file, or really feels creative, we'll definitely accept it. And we don't judge files based on difficulty alone. I'll just put it out now that Zagh's X-rated Heavy would be prefectly acceptable and definitely queue-worthy, at least to me...and that's DEFINITELY a 12 in FFR. But the difficulty completely fits to music, so I would't have a problem with it.

Or jacks. You keep complaining that we're ultraharsh on jacks, but well...the problem is that for the most part, the FFR-playing community just doesn't like jacks. It's not really particularly fun for most people to suddenly be restricted to 2 or 3 frames to hit an arrow when you had 6 to before. Yeah, we're fine with melody-fitting jacks when there isn't a better solution, but otherwise...it's the desires of the many versus the desires of the few. And the desire of the many (from what we understand) is to abolish jacks from files unless there's a good musical reason to put them in.

I'm typically a very open-minded person, but quite honestly, I haven't seen a single complaint made in this thread that I honestly think holds much validity at all, and certainly none that are going to alter my judging in any way whatsoever. No offense to anyone, but most of the complaints just sound like you guys are whining about how horridly harsh we are because your files didn't get in. Or that you want the system to completely cater to YOUR ideals of what the game should be like, regardless of what the rest of the community thinks.

Here's a general rule: if the reaction to a file is bad (note: this means the majority thinks it's bad, or complains about it), we'll adjust our judging accordingly to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's how some of our stricter guidelines (like overstepping) were created...essentially, they were created by the community's reactions to previous files.

[Valtrix]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

When you write solid blocks of text that instantly turn people off, you invite people to "blatantly ignore" your comments.

Well, considering the comments per person weren't that long, his post was just fine in length. I thought that the text was relevant and worth reading. However, if large posts deter people from reading one side of an arguement, that says something about the kind of people on the site. (However, relevance of the post is up to the reader I suppose. Sometimes being succinct is best =P)

I'm not saying that lots of text is always the right way to go. If people will simply "ignore" a post because they don't want to take the time to learn the other side's views, then it creates for a pretty one-sided agruement.

Also, I think that if this thread is going to become such a huge debate that perhaps a new thread should be created for it, since this thread is getting out of hand rather quickly.

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

I'll just put it out now that Zagh's X-rated Heavy would be prefectly acceptable and definitely queue-worthy, at least to me...and that's DEFINITELY a 12 in FFR. But the difficulty completely fits to music, so I would't have a problem with it.

Awesome, brb Otaku Speedvide. Or something like that.
And by this logic it had better get in >:/\

[Shashakiro]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Awesome, brb Otaku Speedvide.
And by this logic it had better get in >:/\

I thought I posted "to a limit".

Must've edited it out or something.

But yeah, there's a limit. Anything higher than 250 BPM 16ths-based probably isn't going to work, simply because no one will find it fun.