Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[Plan_Bsk81127]

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Dang, acceptance rate is pretty strict. Files basically have to be a perfect file or one close to perfect or its just rejected. =\

[Dark_Chrysalis]

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Or maybe I'm just annoyed that Famicom Selecta isn't even getting conditional queue'd... haha

Thanks for liking them =D

And, if I read correctly, both files were technically in conditional queue until we either collab the files together or I fix mine up more.

[bmah]

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Well Plan, it also raises the question of two things:

- the overall appropriateness of a judge's leniency
- HOW MANY FILES ARE TOO MANY ON FFR?!

[TC_Halogen]

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Just a thought here:

Famicom Selecta (Dark_Chrysalis) - (16) (</4/4/5) [Close]

[<] The file was worth at least a [+.] rating, but there is already a better file for this song in the queue or in the batch, and the file is not suitable as a V2.

Wouldn't the < be worth 4 points (i.e. Famicom = 17 points)? Looking at all of the other judges, they all seemed to be in agreement with the fact that both files were fairly identical.

With so many judges, the [<] rating needs to be abolished.

P.S. Famicom is a good file and should go in game kthxbai

[DossarLX ODI]

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- HOW MANY FILES ARE TOO MANY ON FFR?!

When you start to get too many 9's and 10's and you leave the other guys bored. In other words - even if it's a legit file that has potential, if it's hard it's going to get rejected.

[psychoangel691]

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Well Plan, it also raises the question of two things:

- the overall appropriateness of a judge's leniency
- HOW MANY FILES ARE TOO MANY ON FFR?!

NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY FILES!!!!! lol

Altho really I think that maybe a bit of the strictness should go down and the frequency of the batches themselves should be less.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

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Well Plan, it also raises the question of two things:

- the overall appropriateness of a judge's leniency
- HOW MANY FILES ARE TOO MANY ON FFR?!

FFR has a limit to how many files can be in the game? Never knew....

[bmah]

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Well I don't know about that, but what I do know is that the attention span of a file decreases when you've amassed all of these files and one gets lost over another. And then we begin to wonder what's so special about these files when so many are accepted en masse.

It's either that or we've yet to happily accept the possibility that great files are being made on a more regular basis (and people on sites like kbo would say that ffr files are a tier lower than whatever they play, so it sounds like there is room for more effort).

[Izzy]

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Dang, acceptance rate is pretty strict. Files basically have to be a perfect file or one close to perfect or its just rejected. =\

yea except they have to be perfect to "them". It's pretty much entirely subjective after the point of the file being synced and not having notes go to nothing etc..

I like files being different then them so oh well I guess.

[psychoangel691]

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yea except they have to be perfect to "them". It's pretty much entirely subjective after the point of the file being synced and not having notes go to nothing etc..

I like files being different then them so oh well I guess.

I was going to say pretty much the same thing. What actually defines "perfect" for a file? With such a vast difference in opinion on subjective things you can't even really call something a "perfect" file.

[TC_Halogen]

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The lack of an understanding toward subjectivity and objectivity is completely killing ratings. It's alright to have a small bit of objectivity (edit: meant subjectivity rather than objectivity, oops) or give notes as to how you feel something could be better, but taking out a ton of points for an interpretative disagreement is downright wrong. If at any point in time, you look at an error and say in your mind, "I can see why this person did this", even for a split second - then you're realizing their interpretation of the song.

The only time you will ever see a perfect chart for a song is if someone steps a song that has a 4-note melody with less than 4 instruments playing at the same time. Instrumental melodies, scales, etc. will never be accented properly because there's just not enough room to measure it. It's that simple. Being able to separate subjective errors and objective ones makes you a good judge, and knowing how to take disagreements and point them out makes you a better one.

[MarioNintendo]

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The lack of an understanding toward subjectivity and objectivity is completely killing ratings. It's alright to have a small bit of objectivity or give notes as to how you feel something could be better, but taking out a ton of points for an interpretative disagreement is downright wrong. If at any point in time, you look at an error and say in your mind, "I can see why this person did this", even for a split second - then you're realizing their interpretation of the song.

The only time you will ever see a perfect chart for a song is if someone steps a song that has a 4-note melody with less than 4 instruments playing at the same time. Instrumental melodies, scales, etc. will never be accented properly because there's just not enough room to measure it. It's that simple. Being able to separate subjective errors and objective ones makes you a good judge, and knowing how to take disagreements and point them out makes you a better one.

... Amen.

[AsphyxZero]

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The lack of an understanding toward subjectivity and objectivity is completely killing ratings. It's alright to have a small bit of objectivity (edit: meant subjectivity rather than objectivity, oops) or give notes as to how you feel something could be better, but taking out a ton of points for an interpretative disagreement is downright wrong. If at any point in time, you look at an error and say in your mind, "I can see why this person did this", even for a split second - then you're realizing their interpretation of the song.

Errors don't constitute different interpretations, errors are errors.

And if this was anyone else, would you be posting the same thing?

[t-rogdor]

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The lack of an understanding toward subjectivity and objectivity is completely killing ratings. It's alright to have a small bit of objectivity (edit: meant subjectivity rather than objectivity, oops) or give notes as to how you feel something could be better, but taking out a ton of points for an interpretative disagreement is downright wrong. If at any point in time, you look at an error and say in your mind, "I can see why this person did this", even for a split second - then you're realizing their interpretation of the song.

The only time you will ever see a perfect chart for a song is if someone steps a song that has a 4-note melody with less than 4 instruments playing at the same time. Instrumental melodies, scales, etc. will never be accented properly because there's just not enough room to measure it. It's that simple. Being able to separate subjective errors and objective ones makes you a good judge, and knowing how to take disagreements and point them out makes you a better one.

You're saying this while defending a file, simply because your ****ing wife made it. I hope the irony is not lost on you.

If it is, then stop judging. Right now.

[i love you]

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http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=3372931&postcount=17065

This is true however, most of us, including you, were being subjective in this batch in one form or another and used that as apart of your judging. I doubt this will ever change.

And if this was anyone else, would you be posting the same thing?

Doubt it.