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  • #16201
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    Exias
    • Oct 2010
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    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    Awesome, once my song copyrights get back I'll submit my simfiles for them, but I don't really have give myself permission to use my own work now do I?

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    • #16202
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      • Feb 2008
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      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      Well, unless if your music is on a record label, no need to give yourself permission.

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      • #16203
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        flashpantss
        • Aug 2006
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        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        If you guys want to use any of my songs, you have permission. I will constantly have new songs up.

        http://flashpantss.newgrounds.com/
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        Best AAA's= Frictional Nevada (FIRST FGO) Kyrie (ONI Get), Eradication, Of Course you Need and nEed and neEd and NEED ME, Cinnamon Roll (FIRST TO AAA)

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        • #16204
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          bmah
          • Oct 2003
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          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by jimerax
          You sent the link to all judges via PM for sure.
          and that link was still alive, I forwarded it again.

          BTW I was thinking of 13 points or more as borderline but that's a bit harsh.
          So, new idea is like these, this time.

          [Accept]
          + + + (15)
          + + +. (14)
          + +. +. (13)
          + + +? (13)
          + + ? (12)
          + +. +? (12)
          +. +. +. (12)
          + + - (11)

          [Borderline]
          + +. ? (11)
          +. +. +? (11)
          + +? +? (11)
          + +. - (10)

          [Reject]
          +. +. ? (10)
          +. +? +? (10)
          So the boundary between borderline and reject is within the point division of 10? How about setting the boundary between points, such as 9 is a reject and 10 is borderline? Also, consider the other combinations as suggested by Silvuh.

          Originally posted by flashpantss
          If you guys want to use any of my songs, you have permission. I will constantly have new songs up.

          http://flashpantss.newgrounds.com/
          Promote your songs on this thread: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=112805

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          • #16205
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            jimerax
            • Nov 2003
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            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            + + - and + +. - are as good as 1 point higher reqs, since - in these case is considered to be "way too underrated".
            so we can avoid rejecting files just because of one judge's rating.

            also, + +? ? is a reject.

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            • #16206
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              dore
              • Feb 2006
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              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              makes sense to me because 10 is pretty weak if the judges are consistent with each other, but strong if two judges like it and the other hates it for some reason
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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              • #16207
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                bmah
                • Oct 2003
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                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                That's pretty much the logic I'm hoping for there. That should fix the odds and ends that result from quantitative determination.

                edit: dore, you were planning on cutting White Walls in half, right? If you can recall, can you specify where you want it cut?

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                • #16208
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                  Patashu
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 8609

                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  maybe strictly points based isn't the right way to formalize it, then?

                  i'm picturing it something like this: a file has an imaginary true rating, X, and the judges are three samples of this rating, varying according to some distribution (e.g. a normal distribution). using these three samples we can assign a distribution to the imaginary true rating, and if it is likely enough that it falls in accept we should accept it.

                  this means that a 'meh meh meh' 10 is weak because that assigns a low variance to the predicted true value, while a 'yes yes horrible' is stronger since it has more variance and a substantial chance it's in the 'accepted' range for real
                  Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                  http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                  Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                  http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                  • #16209
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                    Silvuh
                    • Apr 2005
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                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    Standard sum rating:
                    (disregarding standard deviation)
                    15 + + +
                    14 + + +.
                    13 + + +?, + +.+.
                    12 + + ? , + +.+?, +.+.+.
                    11 + + - ,
                    + +.? , + +?+?, +.+.+?
                    10 + +.- ,
                    + +?? , +.+.? , +.+?+?
                    09 + +?- , + ? ? , +.+.- , +.+?? , +?+?+?
                    08 + ? - , +.+?- , +.? ? , +?+??
                    07 + - - , +.? - , +?+?- , +?? ?
                    06 +.- - , +?? - , ? ? ?
                    05 +?- - , ? ? -
                    04 ? - -
                    03 - - -


                    Highest reasonable rating:
                    (adding the standard deviation)
                    15 + + +
                    14 + + +., + + +?
                    13 + + ? , + +.+., + + - , + +.+?

                    12 + +.? , + +?+?, + +.- , +.+.+.
                    11 +.+.+?, + +?? , +.+.? , + +?-
                    10 + ? ? = +.+.- , +.+?+?, + ? - , +.+??
                    09 +.+?- , + - - , +.? ? , +?+?+?
                    08 +?+?? , +.? - , +?+?-
                    07 +.- - , +?? ? , +?? -
                    06 +?- - , ? ? ?
                    05 ? ? -
                    04 ? - -
                    03 - - -


                    Lowest reasonable rating:
                    (subtracting the standard deviation)
                    15 + + +
                    14
                    13 + + +.
                    12 + +.+., +.+.+.
                    11 + + +?, + +.+?

                    10 +.+.+?, + + ?
                    09 + +?+?, + +.? , +.+?+?, +?+?+?
                    08 +.+.? ,
                    + + - , + +?? , +.+??
                    07
                    + +.- , +?+?? , + ? ? = +.+.- , + +?-
                    06 +.? ? , +.+?- , +?? ? , ? ? ?
                    05 + ? - , +?+?- , +.? - , +?? -
                    04 + - - , ? ? - , +.- -
                    03 +?- - , ? - - , - - -


                    Curved "balanced" rating:
                    (Adding or subtracting a curved standard deviation based on the direction of the variance)
                    15 + + +
                    14 + + +., + + +?
                    13 + + ?
                    12 + +.+., + +.?, + + -, + +.+?= +.+.+.

                    11 +.+.+?, + +.-, +.+.?
                    10 +.+.-
                    09 + +?+?, +.+?+?, +.+?- , + +?- = +.+?? = +?+?+?
                    08 + +?? , +.+.? , +?+?-
                    07 + ? ?
                    06 +.? ? , + ? - , +?? ? , +?? - = ? ? ?
                    05 + - - , +.? - , ? ? -
                    04 +.- -
                    03 +?- - , ? - - , - - -


                    Standard deviations:
                    (non-sequitur parenthetical for zen)
                    00 + + + , +.+.+., +?+?+?, ? ? ? , - - -
                    05 + + +., + +.+., +.+.+?, +.+?+?, +?+?? , +?? ? , ? ? - , ? - -
                    10 + +.+?, +.+?? , +?? -
                    11 + + +?, + +?+?, +.+.? , +.? ? , +?+?- , +?- -
                    15 + +.? , + +?? , +.+?- , +.? -
                    17 + + ? , + ? ? , +.+.- , +.- -
                    20 + +?-
                    21 + +.- , + ? -
                    23 + + - , + - -



                    (And they are ordered from highest to lowest in each row.)

                    ... I hope this is useful somehow. It doesn't really help with the "likely" because I forgot how to do, like, confidence intervals and all that statistics-y stuff... Since after taking that AP test ... bwoop, aaaall gone...
                    Last edited by Silvuh; 11-18-2010, 10:07 PM.

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                    • #16210
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                      Patashu
                      • Apr 2006
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                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      <3
                      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                      http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                      • #16211
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                        bmah
                        • Oct 2003
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                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        Oh, that works really nicely.
                        p.s. the colors help a lot for visual representation O.O

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                        • #16212
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                          dore
                          • Feb 2006
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                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by bmah
                          edit: dore, you were planning on cutting White Walls in half, right? If you can recall, can you specify where you want it cut?
                          Yeah if you have to chop it up, I'd like the (12) in m262 to be the last note of part 1 and the first note of part 2 (with like a measure of two lead-in on part two, so that there's a little overlap and continuity).
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                          • #16213
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                            jimerax
                            • Nov 2003
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                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            statistical analysis there

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                            • #16214
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                              Patashu
                              • Apr 2006
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                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              so? even seemingly simple ideas like 'when you look at a book on amazon, you should be recommended books like it' requires data analytical techniques
                              Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                              http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                              Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                              http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                              • #16215
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                                • Nov 2003
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                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                more like listing mean values of these combinations with error bars in a graph

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