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Nocturne Ab Min No.2 :: FFR Batch Submission
MarioNintendo -
Nocturne Ab Min No.2 -
NickPerrin [5.75 / 10]
16th Official Tournament (see thread)
PublicTokenPurchasedSecretEvents
Rejected
https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4273002&postcount=3
This file is special to me. It is the dawn of something great. My actual stepping career! Out with the old F8 minipack of doom junk. It was time to make true art... Let me explain.
Back in 2008 when I discovered StepMania, the first thing I wanted to attempt was creating songs. There were two problems:
1) all the songs I wanted to step didn't have a constant BPM, making it very hard to keep sync.
2) I wasn't very good at stepping.
All the experience I had prior to Stepmania was making songs for the Guitar Hero clone "Frets on Fire". (I'm sad to report all my Frets on Fire songs were lost, but they were nothing special. I distinctly remember making songs for "Yesterday", "Stairway to Heaven", "Pirates of the Caribbean theme", and "Whenever, Whenever". In most songs I was layering the drum and vocals into the guitar chart. What can I say... I was 14!)
My first incomplete Stepmania file was Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John. Doesn't scream StepMania material, I agree with you. The next one was Bring Back That Leroy Brown by Queen. Unfortunately, both songs were lost forever due to computer malfunctions. It's ok, they were not really great to begin with.
Then, I stepped the files for the F8 Minipack of Doom (Hell in 3 Seconds, The Time Warp and Jungle). We all know how that went.
Then, I stepped Winter and Rose, my earliest attempts at making a complete StepMania song (at least, if I recall correctly). I think I also stepped Candypop and FFReedom at that point. Fortunately, these songs are safe (and part of this pack).
Then, FlashFlashRevolution crashed for about 10 months. I don't really remember what I did during that time, since there's no record for the year 2009.
In 2010, FlashFlashRevolution came back, prompting me to give stepping another shot. I was in grade 11-12 at the time and had a better understanding of English, which helped reading tutorials online. I was still surfing Newgrounds (which wasn't dead back then) and stumbled upon musician Nick Perrin. This was love at first sight for me: his songs were mostly piano, which is one of my favorite styles, and were played at a pace where I could play my own songs. I believe in 2010-2011 I stepped 6 or 7 songs from the guy, it was insane. I even sent him a direct message on Newgrounds to ask for permission to use his songs in FFR, and he said YES!!
Nocturne Ab Min No. 2 was stepped WITHOUT DDReamStudio, of which I knew nothing at the time. I synced it out of sheer determination and love for the song. It never made its way into FlashFlashRevolution, but it got the attention of psychoangel691, who invited me to join the Dragons Fury community. That community contained many
people who would become the new generation of simfile makers for a certain period. I learned a great deal about stepping from that forum, including learning about DDReamStudio from who_cares973. Magical times.
Here is the earliest known version of this file: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eWbiHLXEa8
Back in 2008 when I discovered StepMania, the first thing I wanted to attempt was creating songs. There were two problems:
1) all the songs I wanted to step didn't have a constant BPM, making it very hard to keep sync.
2) I wasn't very good at stepping.
All the experience I had prior to Stepmania was making songs for the Guitar Hero clone "Frets on Fire". (I'm sad to report all my Frets on Fire songs were lost, but they were nothing special. I distinctly remember making songs for "Yesterday", "Stairway to Heaven", "Pirates of the Caribbean theme", and "Whenever, Whenever". In most songs I was layering the drum and vocals into the guitar chart. What can I say... I was 14!)
My first incomplete Stepmania file was Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John. Doesn't scream StepMania material, I agree with you. The next one was Bring Back That Leroy Brown by Queen. Unfortunately, both songs were lost forever due to computer malfunctions. It's ok, they were not really great to begin with.
Then, I stepped the files for the F8 Minipack of Doom (Hell in 3 Seconds, The Time Warp and Jungle). We all know how that went.
Then, I stepped Winter and Rose, my earliest attempts at making a complete StepMania song (at least, if I recall correctly). I think I also stepped Candypop and FFReedom at that point. Fortunately, these songs are safe (and part of this pack).
Then, FlashFlashRevolution crashed for about 10 months. I don't really remember what I did during that time, since there's no record for the year 2009.
In 2010, FlashFlashRevolution came back, prompting me to give stepping another shot. I was in grade 11-12 at the time and had a better understanding of English, which helped reading tutorials online. I was still surfing Newgrounds (which wasn't dead back then) and stumbled upon musician Nick Perrin. This was love at first sight for me: his songs were mostly piano, which is one of my favorite styles, and were played at a pace where I could play my own songs. I believe in 2010-2011 I stepped 6 or 7 songs from the guy, it was insane. I even sent him a direct message on Newgrounds to ask for permission to use his songs in FFR, and he said YES!!
Nocturne Ab Min No. 2 was stepped WITHOUT DDReamStudio, of which I knew nothing at the time. I synced it out of sheer determination and love for the song. It never made its way into FlashFlashRevolution, but it got the attention of psychoangel691, who invited me to join the Dragons Fury community. That community contained many
people who would become the new generation of simfile makers for a certain period. I learned a great deal about stepping from that forum, including learning about DDReamStudio from who_cares973. Magical times.
Here is the earliest known version of this file: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eWbiHLXEa8
- The sim folder name isn't as expected: "Nocturne Ab Min No 2 (MarioNintendo)" vs "Nocturne Ab Min No.2 (MarioNintendo)"
Simfile Folder Name
Nocturne Ab Min No 2 (MarioNintendo)Note Count
1391Chart Length
2:33Average NPS
9.2425Estimated Difficulty
69.82
First Note
0:02Ending Note Delay
0:01Hand Bias
x 35
Framers
0 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 0 3 - 25 4 - 76Jumps
x 374
Hands
x 4
Quads
x 0
Color Jumps
x 3
Color Hands
x 0
Color Quads
x 0
Most notes in:
1/3 of a Second6 - 18.00 nps 0.5 Seconds
9 - 18.00 nps 1 Second
17 - 17.00 nps 2 Seconds
32 - 16.00 nps 5 Seconds
63 - 12.60 nps 10 Seconds
125 - 12.50 nps 30 Seconds
332 - 11.07 nps 1 Minute
625 - 10.42 nps
Color Count
x 502 (36.09%)
x 352 (25.31%)
x 168 (12.08%)
x 257 (18.48%)
x 58 (4.17%)
x 32 (2.3%)
x 12 (0.86%)
x 10 (0.72%)
x 0 (0%)
Posted at 5:38pm on October 28th, 2023
Nocturne Ab Min No 2 (MarioNintendo) [6.5/10]
>Perms & metadata good
>Sync sometimes questionable
2.642/14.293/14.413 - No jump?
5.044/15.374 - Why jump?
6.125 - Should be [3] to fit with the minijack noise of 6.245
16.095-16.335/19.939-20.179 - Should be [12][34][12] to avoid the unnecessary [3] jack. Also compare 17.056-17.296. Applies in later jumps
18.737 - Should be [13] to avoid having the same jump pattern as 18.978
20.900-21.140/21.860-22.101 - Shouldn’t this be all jumps? Compare 18.978-19.218
27.626-28.347/46.764-54.292/1:09.476-1:10.437/1:35.101-1:42.628/1:58.287-1:59.247 - Fix PR
29.067 - Should be [23] for better PR
36.995-38.797 - Fix PR. Also why are 36.995/37.235 jumps?
44.682-46.484/1:33.019-1:34.941 - The jumps are on the “downbeat” now? Compare 36.995-38.797
56.213-58.135/1:44.550-1:46.472/1:50.346-1:50.606/2:30.452 - Fix sync
1:00.177-1:02.269/1:48.454-1:50.606 - Optional, but would appreciate it if you made the trill transitions smoother by connecting them
1:02.009 - Sounds closer to 1:02.058
1:02.139 - Sounds closer to 1:02.123
1:13.080-1:15.242/2:01.888-2:04.048 - Why [4] anchor?
1:21.968-1:22.449/2:10.769-2:11.249 - Fix layering. Compare 33.632-34.112
1:25.332-1:27.133 - See comment at 36.995-38.797
2:15.810 - Should be [24] for better PR
>>For a piano piece, the PR here was surprisingly not that great
Posted at 5:39pm on October 28th, 2023
Nocturne Ab Min No.2
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- Permission, metadata good.
** Sync has problems. :( It'd be a bit of a complicated fix--the initial offset is wrong (about 30ms early), and the bpm is slow, so the sync drifts back into place and then out the other side. Adding to the complication, there are a couple of other bpm changes later, which put it closer to the right timing, but then it drifts out of sync again after each.
- Because of how far off the sync is, I'll give only very minimal timestamped feedback and stick instead to generalities. My main issue with this file is the anchoring (and, as a sort of sub-concern, the minijack use). A lot of the time, it's not at all clear to me what it goes to, if anything. See column 2 from 18.017-20.659 for an example of a long, confusing 8th anchor; the 12th column 1 anchor at 52.210 doesn't seem to make any PR sense; etc. As an example of minijack use, it's not clear to me why 16.095 gets so much tougher a pattern than 17.056, or most of the other similar sounds around it really.
- I also feel the trill patterns at 60.177 (and once again later) could be a bit more interesting, anchors could definitely work but there's a lot more PR stuff going on than the chart represents.
- Is this version still the file from the DF days? I see some nice ideas in it (the 24th streams are cool, for instance) but with the sync and sloppy anchoring it does feel like an early file, and one you might have synced without DDReam lol. Unfortunately would need some heavy revision for FFR, but it's cool to see you submit a file with this kind of history! [5/10]
Posted at 10:43pm on October 29th, 2023
Thanks for the detailed notes guys. Yes, indeed this is still the file from the DF days. Just a little trip down memory lane for you both. :) No worries, have a nice day!