Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[FissionMailed1]

I just lost a good deal of respect for you. You are supposed to judge files based on their own merit, not what you feel is "fit for FFR" or not. That isn't for you to decide.

[Razor]

#shotsfired

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Also just because a song can be stepped doesn't mean it should be

you stepped michael jackson

[Razor]

and dr. dre

[Choofers]

dr. dre was a dump file lol

I think it funny that we're having this argument though because carlos has also stepped his fair share of "songs that shouldn't be stepped"

[Choofers]

But 4 raelz, saying a song shouldn't be stepped is pretentious. I don't think Disturbed should be stepped, but dore sent two files. Someone will play them. Someone will enjoy them. who_cares973

[04im]

this message is brought to you by aaron funk

[Choofers]

if venetian snares was a dick, he'd be aaron spunk

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

See I can agree with this. You aren't my favorite person by any means, but your personality has no effect on your judging capability. In fact, I loathe most of your charts in SM, and I still think you'd be an asset as a judge. They're just not my cup of tea to be fair. :3

yeah dude i get that. there's a baseline knowledge you have to have to even be able to make a stepmania chart, and anything after that is just personal choice subjective shit. so really the only objective standards you can judge on are sync and maybe some pattern usage. after that it's completely subjective so it's cool you recognize opinion of one's files on a PERSONAL level != on a TECHNICAL level etc etc

aNyway this is neat I know I've given you shit in the past but you're goin at this in a pretty level headed way. i can respect that maybe i judged u wrong middo

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Also just because a song can be stepped doesn't mean it should be

wc man i love you but you've changed
you wouldn't have said this like 2 years ago
remember when you were gonna step gregorian chants
man

[SKG_Scintill]

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Originally Posted by Choofers

Someone will play them. Someone will enjoy them. who_cares973

Someone will enjoy eating his girlfriend's shit out of her ass.
Get a file in game when most people want to play it, not some.
/community

[FissionMailed1]

"drama", br0. It brings all the arrowsmashers to the yard.

[bmah]

I'm pretty sure WC is just dicking around with you all. :sun:

[SKG_Scintill]

That's what they said about the Nazis.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Also just because a song can be stepped doesn't mean it should be

I actually have to agree with this. There are some songs that don't make great charts. It doesn't mean the song is bad in all cases, but some just make bad charts.

Originally Posted by t-rogdor

yeah dude i get that. there's a baseline knowledge you have to have to even be able to make a stepmania chart, and anything after that is just personal choice subjective shit. so really the only objective standards you can judge on are sync and maybe some pattern usage. after that it's completely subjective so it's cool you recognize opinion of one's files on a PERSONAL level != on a TECHNICAL level etc etc

aNyway this is neat I know I've given you shit in the past but you're goin at this in a pretty level headed way. i can respect that maybe i judged u wrong middo

1. I vote T-Rog for judge next go around~
2. I'm glad. But I'll be perfectly honest, you and a deal of others who actually formed their own opinions, weren't wrong. I've only recently have gotten a new look at simcharting by actually judging a few charts myself and it actually meaning something. Also, chatting with Glove, Kommi, NMP, Stargroup really made me headdesk at myself. I still think certain things are really bad and I do have my biases and preferences, so I gotta kink those outta my system.

That being said, I still think FFR has recently had a huge quality drop, hopin' to see this batch turn it around.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by FissionMailed1

I just lost a good deal of respect for you. You are supposed to judge files based on their own merit, not what you feel is "fit for FFR" or not. That isn't for you to decide.

I'm a judge what do you mean it isn't up to me to decide what is or isn't fit for FFR.

Originally Posted by Choofers

you stepped michael jackson

I stepped a guitar solo

Originally Posted by Choofers

dr. dre was a dump file lol

I think it funny that we're having this argument though because carlos has also stepped his fair share of "songs that shouldn't be stepped"

Sm isn't FFR

If the file are on FFR by all means file a complaint with the FFR staff and ask to have them removed

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Choofers

But 4 raelz, saying a song shouldn't be stepped is pretentious. I don't think Disturbed should be stepped, but dore sent two files. Someone will play them. Someone will enjoy them. who_cares973

Disturbed is popular for a reason

Atom head is not for a reason

[FissionMailed1]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I'm a judge what do you mean it isn't up to me to decide what is or isn't fit for FFR.

It isn't for you to decide what songs aren't fit for FFR. You have to leave song bias out of this. If you have objective reasons for docking points on a file, that's completely different, but you don't represent the collective of FFR's musical taste. Therefore, you shouldn't be holding song choice against specific files.

[SKG_Scintill]

Originally Posted by FissionMailed1

but you don't represent the collective of FFR's musical taste.

But a judge SHOULD represent the taste of a part of the community...

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by t-rogdor

wc man i love you but you've changed
you wouldn't have said this like 2 years ago
remember when you were gonna step gregorian chants
man

I still have my wip for a Gregorian chant song. Remember though we are talking about FFR and not sm. As far as sm goes step whatever the fuck you want. If you want to step some obscure beep bop music more power to you and if the file isn't bad for it then sweet shit. FFR though is different you aren't stepping a file for music that you would enjoy you are stepping it for music most people enjoy.

Originally Posted by bmah

I'm pretty sure WC is just dicking around with you all. :sun:

Kinda 50/50

Originally Posted by FissionMailed1

It isn't for you to decide what songs aren't fit for FFR. You have to leave song bias out of this. If you have objective reasons for docking points on a file, that's completely different, but you don't represent the collective of FFR's musical taste. Therefore, you shouldn't be holding song choice against specific files.

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

But a judge SHOULD represent the taste of a part of the community...

^^^

[FissionMailed1]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

But a judge SHOULD represent the taste of a part of the community...

Not sure what you mean by that. If you are a Simfile judge, you influence what files are put in game. By doing this, you aren't just influencing FFR file selection for a portion of the FFR players, you are influencing FFR file selection for all of the FFR players.