TWG 202 - GAME THREAD

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by XelNya

let me actually spell it out

"The Museum of International Recreational Activities"

they had their roles from the get-go

probably something security related

it's the name of a map in Among Us
it was also posted in signups and the questionnaire, so it's fair game to assume that Among Us was the plan all along and this was just a 10-player mountainous setup w/ night start as haku described

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

a lot to take in so I'm just gonna post general thoughts about each player

star seems to be overly conscious about how she's perceived by others this game when I didn't see that as much in prior games. could be personal, but thought I'd note it anyways.

xel seems very town to me

hateandhatred town lean, never played with him before.

roundbox seems fine for now but I can never really read him

ffa I'm not quite sure. maybe more of a scum lean than town but I'm mostly neutral atm.

lurker ????? I don't know if me disagreeing with his posts means he's scum. seems to be harping on peculiar things.

freezin is null.

haku is haku. oddly I find their behavior more towny today. posts seem genuine.

will make longer post in a bit

this was made last phase when bug was confirmed crewmate, so take that for what it's worth
I don't think they really developed their xel read past this or really got a huge chance to elaborate, unfortunately. I think someone else brought this up during this phase, but yeah, I see it too
the points on star and lurker seem to be the ones most closely hinting at a scum lean, where everyone else is either null, unsure, or a bit towny.

man this game is hard

[roundbox]

I did myself a favor and reread
the biggest tonal shift from pre-d0 to post-d0 has to be Xel on two factors:
-post volume
-solving/deducing

I have seen the solving/deducing from Xel in these most recent posts, sure, but there really wasn't much of it elsewhere last phase or until right now this phase
even when Xel made posts yesterday, they weren't really advancing anything and he didn't even have a vote

I'm surprised to see my play considered as a "coasting" wolf when I'm the 3rd highest postcount in the game (I'm only calling this out for your use of the word coasting)

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I feel like you're putting words in bugkid's mouth too and I also don't understand how that works.

post-when-it-matters but the "they're in your town pile" is aimed at FFA and not bugkid here (reference was in the post above it.)

FFA had:

Haku
BugKid
Storn
Lurker

in his town pile at this point

bugkid blatantly asking for a PR claim is literally the point where I started tilting

the now obvious misplay is that their original post saying you had slipped was bad, because your post they're going after you for, is totally reasonable and isn't a slip, even in a shit-post oriented lens

Also considering BugKid was pushing you [Haku] that post is a mess given it's current state in my reread.

I only say this doesn't matter because I 1. don't know FFA the rest of the game from here, and 2. bugkid's slot is resolved.

Originally Posted by bugkid666

I thought Haku “slipped” (and Storn and maybe Xel seemed to have noticed this) because he stated that the word Applicant ONLY appeared in the welcome message and NOWHERE else, when he should have gotten an Applicant role message from Force. Regardless of validity it was something I noticed immediately.

I had not noticed. THIS explanation - I wish I'd seen it earlier? I don't know why you'd held back this info, would have solved the tilt quickly because it's very checkable info.

Originally Posted by bugkid666

here's an example of a post I feel like might make someone target storn.



the obvious conclusion is that this makes ffa or rb look potentially sus, but that's likely a ploy.

these haku posts feel so weird in succession:

[Quotes]

I don't wanna focus too much on d0 because I don't know how much I can actually rely on tone there, but it's weird how haku just flips to star without much elaboration. and this wasn't a self-preservation vote because I was the only one with a vote on haku while there were at least two for ffa.

I'd feel disappointed in myself if I didn't at least point this out.

This post is worth a reexamine.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Whats up xel.

Any thoughts on that eod?

I wasn't here, but I think we lynch from the pile of hatred votes today

Originally Posted by roundbox

Xel doesn't even have a vote in
how is this guy town

I think roundbox sits firmly in my town pile unless he blatantly asks for a role reveal from someone

To really summarize where I am at rn

I:

1. Think the wolf on the hatred wagon is between Haku and FFA, if not both
2. Think if FFA is lynched and wolf-flips we flip star next
3. Think flipping me solves my slot for everyone, and based on my play would mechanically be the correct call. But I am merely giving the "of fucking course I am town" perspective for later.
4. If Haku flips wolf we flip freezin.

Roundbox atm never flips for me because I see literally zero malice
FFA I think trying to self-resolve the slot is slank even if past games indicate he's right - I don't actually care
I've played pretty bad because I dipped at prime moments and most of where I sit is based on hindsight.
Hatred's lynch is so what the fuck I make zero heads or tails of it other than maybe we can use it to rule who'd flip between haku and ffa in a world where I am not the chopping block

I think my vote falls onto FFA or Haku today. I lean towards Haku more, because I like him less, and can use his flip to determine the amount of Malice in the FFA vote later.

[lurker]

welcome to the game xel

[T-Force]

VOTE COUNT
lurker: 2 - FreezinIce (460), Hakulyte (491)
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Hakulyte: 1 - lurker (492)
XelNya: 1 - flashflash account (494)

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Yet to vote - roundbox, XelNya, star-crossed

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to insta.

There are 4 hours and 14 minutes remaining.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by lurker

welcome to the game xel

[flashflash account]

Can you explain haku->freezin

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I did myself a favor and reread
the biggest tonal shift from pre-d0 to post-d0 has to be Xel on two factors:
-post volume
-solving/deducing

I have seen the solving/deducing from Xel in these most recent posts, sure, but there really wasn't much of it elsewhere last phase or until right now this phase
even when Xel made posts yesterday, they weren't really advancing anything and he didn't even have a vote

As far as "actual" things go - I don't have a way to really dispute this. It's totally fair.

[roundbox]

I'm gonna get some good dinner, then I'll be in the thread for big times
I haven't had a real good meal in the past few days since I haven't been feeling the best, but I think I'm beating it so I can eat normally again
woo?

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Can you explain haku->freezin

In an effort to be as charitable as I can be:

1. Both POEs lynch one of my scummier leans.
2. Then we use the lynch of the "unknown" lean to rule the other one, and then the other more scum lean.
3. Aside from that, this forces them to remain careful, and not afk as they're on the block next phase assuming no fuckery.

I don't quite buy you AND Haku are scum. I COULD interpret one of your posts as a save attempt, but rather than riding that I'm leaving the door open. Mostly because I think mechanically, you wouldn't do that.

None of these are "set in stone" progression, just purposed ones I think work pretty well.

But again, these also assume we leave me off the table - and let's be real here, I am most certainly going to have to have to have a strong push / clear lynch for the good of town really.

My ideas are more for tomorrow than today.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

In an effort to be as charitable as I can be:

1. Both POEs lynch one of my scummier leans.
2. Then we use the lynch of the "unknown" lean to rule the other one, and then the other more scum lean.
3. Aside from that, this forces them to remain careful, and not afk as they're on the block next phase assuming no fuckery.

I don't quite buy you AND Haku are scum. I COULD interpret one of your posts as a save attempt, but rather than riding that I'm leaving the door open. Mostly because I think mechanically, you wouldn't do that.

None of these are "set in stone" progression, just purposed ones I think work pretty well.

But again, these also assume we leave me off the table - and let's be real here, I am most certainly going to have to have to have a strong push / clear lynch for the good of town really.

My ideas are more for tomorrow than today.

I've watched too much breadtube, dear fucking me, send help.

[flashflash account]

Do you think wolves knew they were wolves d0

[lurker]

the gypsy woman said i would end up melding with xel and here we are
the only exception being that i think the game can in fact be as easy as it looks
there is a non zero possibility i have to re-examine day 0

[lurker]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Do you think wolves knew they were wolves d0

why does haku think a night 1 kill was impossible

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Do you think wolves knew they were wolves d0

Originally Posted by XelNya

In short I think we have one scum team and can treat everything as normal and ignore flavor.

Mostly posting this so it’s just so I can avoid the second guessing stage later.

In short: yes.

But I cannot explain the lack of first lynch, unless we actually use the host's text very literally.

Originally Posted by T-Force

Night 1 begins / Game starts
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Night 1 kill / Day 1 begins
Day 1 Final Votecount
Day 1 Ends
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Night 2 kill / Day 2 begins

Which is that the game didn't "start" till imposter gag was revealed and the first day was a shit-post like...

Waiting in the lobby.

YOU MOTHER FUCKER IF THAT IS WHAT THAT WAS.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

In short: yes.

But I cannot explain the lack of first lynch, unless we actually use the host's text very literally.



Which is that the game didn't "start" till imposter gag was revealed and the first day was a shit-post like...

Waiting in the lobby.

YOU MOTHER FUCKER IF THAT IS WHAT THAT WAS.

TREVOR I FUCKING SWEAR HEED MY WORDS I WILL SCREAM POST-GAME.

[XelNya]

But other than that of course.

[lurker]

in case it matters, xel is my only crew lean
i am forced to stay concerned about roundbox for reasons previously stated
star immediately becomes my focus if by some terrible misfortune haku flips crew because they are dead weight
for all intents and purposes freezin has to convince me they are not haku's partner, ffa is at least interesting

[star-crossed]

lurker