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What I've read is that it's a good idea to go past parallel because you work out both the hamstrings and quads at the same time. Otherwise, if you only develop the quads, muscle imbalance issues may cause knee problems later (mainly if you use heavier weight).
Then again, I don't claim to know much about this, and I see no reason why one couldn't just do parallel squats and then work out the hamstrings with something else (in my case, stiff-legged deadlifts would probably help pick up the slack). I'm coming real close to canceling my gym membership and just sticking with my in-house gym, but I need to make a final case for squats either way. If I can do them, I want to start doing them. But if I absolutely cannot get the form down properly, I'm just wasting money. Last edited by Reincarnate; 10-26-2012 at 08:39 AM.. |
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So I was practicing squats yesterday for half an hour. Today my legs feel like jelly and I have to keep climing up and down stairs at work. Ghey
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Even up the stairs?
For me, going *down* stairs was absolute hell, lol. Even slight downward-sloping creases in concrete were enough to make my knees buckle hardcore. |
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Nothing I'm going to say to you is going to change your mind. Anything that you want badly enough, you'll accomplish: the question is, how badly do you want to do it? This takes years dude, it's not going to be a one day thing. You have to practice your ass off, literally, to get anywhere in life, and this is no different. It sounds to me like you're making excuses. "Oh, I can't do squats, so I guess I dont have to go to this gym!" You start at the bottom and you move weight until you reach the top, there is nobody out there that starts with perfect form.
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he says he has no muscle, he shouldn't be using at weight with his squats. he is 220 pounds. thats plenty.
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My concern is that I'm not physically equipped to handle squats yet. To use an analogy, it would be like a newbie looking at a billion videos on how to ride a bike or how to whistle. "Just keep your balance centered, and pedal!" "Just put your lips together, and blow!" To me, squats are like that. "Sit back more" doesn't mean anything to me because my attempts to sit back fail. I don't know how to "pretend you're sitting down on a chair that isn't there," because if I sit down on a chair that isn't there, I'm going to be falling onto my ass. As a result, I end up with extremely sore knees and an inability to squat to parallel because I am pretty sure I'm doing it all wrong. That's where my frustration is. I don't know if it's because I'm literally doing the motion incorrectly and need to make some adjustment I haven't been able to figure out yet, or if it's because I physically can't do the motion due to insufficient muscle mass/strength. I'm worried that I'm just going to be spinning my wheels, paying for a gym membership where I invest a great deal of energy, time, and money into exercises that I'm only getting some 40% efficiency from. On the other hand, I could stay at my in-apt gym for no additional cost and at least pump out some soreness from machines or dumbbells or something. I'd *love* to squat, but it's pissing me off that I can't do them worth a damn. The bar, even by itself, is *heavy* to me, and I don't know if that's a sign I should start simpler or whatever. There's this huge range of possible motions I can go through by just "keeping my back straight, bend at the hips, sit back, don't let the knees go past the toes," etc, and so I don't know which way is the right way. Last edited by Reincarnate; 10-26-2012 at 12:07 PM.. |
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I'm no expert in the gym, but I was told to work on building the muscle in my legs, while still practicing the squatting position. As soon as I felt like my body could support it, I tried squats with low weights. The key to any workout is form, especially when it comes to squats. If you squat wrong, you will mess yourself up, and badly. A lot of people like to say, "Go big or go home.". You have no idea how many people I've seen break themselves while I was in bootcamp. Don't be that guy; some people can't recover from the damage they caused themselves.
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That is my concern. If I can't get the form down correctly, I don't want to risk screwing something up.
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wow this is sad
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Just practice the form and you'll be fine. Also, make attempts to do squats with just the bar.
The more you practice these movements, the more prepared your body will be to make them. You have to 'teach' your body how to squat properly. No one is born adjusted to the squat, and if they say they were, they're lying. You can think of it as similar to training your body to play FFR. In a way, it's not much different.
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I'm not saying Reincarnate should go in and start squatting 135 or whatever, or even the bar. I'm saying he shouldn't use "I cant do it right away!" as an excuse to give up. Your knees will hurt because there's muscles you have never used before, but it'll get better. Sitting in a chair that isnt there? Sit in a regular chair. Or sit against the wall. Wall squats are perfect for teaching you what to do, I think one of the sites I linked shows how to do that. http://youtu.be/1ZNELZKigUk http://youtu.be/3XXIIGAG3cc http://youtu.be/GaR72bpjSa4 Quote:
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I use to practice Kuk Sool Won and found out that a lot of movements I made everyday were actually bad for my body. I started to use the advice they were giving me, learning the proper ways to move heavy objects with my body (and things like that), and found myself being able to do more with less pain. When it comes to working out, I see "monkey see, monkey do" as only getting someone so far. Once someone grasps the concept, they need to work on learning how to do it for themselves. As soon as that's achieved, put on the weights and let the real training begin!
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Rubix, seriously, just ****ing squat. Don't worry, don't give a shit, just ****ing squat. Weight on heels, chest out, squat, repeat.
Also good job on all the progress everyone! Really proud. Senip and Reach are ripped. Some chest and arm growth. Abs are on the way out as I start to eat more. Thanks for all the tips by the way Senip and Reach.
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I never squat past parallel because I don't want to and never will, and my hamstrings are fine. If I'm ever unhappy with them, then I'll add in something else to hit them harder. I think that's the key point with fitness man. Do whatever you want to do. If you don't like a certain exercise, then don't do it. I know a lot of people here are telling you to essentially suck it up, but listen, you're not going to be a ****ing professional bodybuilder. It's not that serious. You're an average new lifter that is looking to get into better shape, and if you're afraid you're going to hurt yourself doing squats and don't like them because you're having trouble with them, then don't do them. It's really that simple. I'd much rather see someone like you actually go to the gym regularly and enjoy it than stress about some exercise and end up losing motivation. The squat rack isn't going anywhere. You can come back to it whenever. For the record, my squat form is far from perfect and I've been doing them for a long time. It's not an easy exercise to perform correctly. 90% of people doing them in the gym are doing them wrong. If you're going to keep doing them, consider it a learning experience and don't expect it to be perfect the first time you're doing it. This applies to most lifts. It's a learning experience man, you're not going to be perfect. But that doesn't mean that what you're doing is wrong or that it won't help you. The body is hardly that picky. Just stay safe, don't hurt yourself and try to have a good time in the gym.
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am I allowed to use this excuse if I step sepia as well
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Yes. It is a universal rule.
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i weight 270 and air squats are good enough for me lmao.
also reach ive never done squats before in my life and in the half hour i went from not being able to get below like 50 degrees to going parallel and a little bit further but after that i either fell or my body was not up to that motion yet. you could also practice doing wall sits or something so you get the idea of sitting in a chair that isnt there |
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