TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

[Hateandhatred]

Also let's clarify something: Is it ok to suspect which characters people have picked? I know sunfan is a huge tool and decided it was bad to hardclaim our waifus/husbandos, but this would make the game simply not fun.

I have a hunch for a few people there, and given that my role is very much well known, combined with the flips we're having, I am 99% sure all the roles are relevant to the chosen characters.

So we could figure out who everyone might have picked and based our investigation on it at least partially. I understand if you guys decide it's not fair at all to play this way, but the possibility of using it far too game-changing to avoid at least discussing it.

Thoughts?

[Daikyi]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Also let's clarify something: Is it ok to suspect which characters people have picked? I know sunfan is a huge tool and decided it was bad to hardclaim our waifus/husbandos, but this would make the game simply not fun.

I have a hunch for a few people there, and given that my role is very much well known, combined with the flips we're having, I am 99% sure all the roles are relevant to the chosen characters.

So we could figure out who everyone might have picked and based our investigation on it at least partially. I understand if you guys decide it's not fair at all to play this way, but the possibility of using it far too game-changing to avoid at least discussing it.

Thoughts?

sunfan isn't being a tool, it's in OP:

- It is heavily discouraged talking about your role name

in previous mystery/anon games, there were roles that let you kill based on finding out other role names, and roles that were looking for specific roles etc. this early is never a good idea to massclaim because we don't know mechanics, or whether the mass claim leads to a mass grave

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

sunfan isn't being a tool, it's in OP:

in previous mystery/anon games, there were roles that let you kill based on finding out other role names, and roles that were looking for specific roles etc. this early is never a good idea to massclaim because we don't know mechanics, or whether the mass claim leads to a mass grave

Calling sunfan a tool was just for fun/memes, don't pay attention to it.

Of course claiming is pretty bad, but speculating about others could lead to interesting stuff. And if we choose -not- to do it, we have to live with the fact that wolfchat may be a pretty different story.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Calling sunfan a tool was just for fun/memes, don't pay attention to it.

Of course claiming is pretty bad, but speculating about others could lead to interesting stuff. And if we choose -not- to do it, we have to live with the fact that wolfchat may be a pretty different story.

speculating is fine, but its important not to get too dragged into it. And you dont want to speculate just enough that you dont know whats going on, but know a towny is dead because of it. I think its very easy to get lost in the speculation so much that you tunnel too hard into it instead of reading the player.

[Antori]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Also let's clarify something: Is it ok to suspect which characters people have picked? I know sunfan is a huge tool and decided it was bad to hardclaim our waifus/husbandos, but this would make the game simply not fun.

I have a hunch for a few people there, and given that my role is very much well known, combined with the flips we're having, I am 99% sure all the roles are relevant to the chosen characters.

So we could figure out who everyone might have picked and based our investigation on it at least partially. I understand if you guys decide it's not fair at all to play this way, but the possibility of using it far too game-changing to avoid at least discussing it.

Thoughts?

that sounds like alot of lynching and i happen to not like that

[Not devonin]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Also let's clarify something: Is it ok to suspect which characters people have picked? I know sunfan is a huge tool and decided it was bad to hardclaim our waifus/husbandos, but this would make the game simply not fun.

I have a hunch for a few people there, and given that my role is very much well known, combined with the flips we're having, I am 99% sure all the roles are relevant to the chosen characters.

So we could figure out who everyone might have picked and based our investigation on it at least partially. I understand if you guys decide it's not fair at all to play this way, but the possibility of using it far too game-changing to avoid at least discussing it.

Thoughts?

Given that Xiz needed people to commit to characters in advance, and implied he would be structuring at least theming around the characters, it sounds like you are wanting to opt into a separate wifom for every single player.

Did their pick their favourite, from which we can divine their role?
Did they pick something they thought would get them town/wolf/3p/pr?
Did they pick something unlike what anybody knew about them?

What if 10 people all put in characters that would have made sense to be scum? What if only 3 or 4 people put in characters that would have made sense to be town?

Just feels like a total crapshoot, that maybe we should use for like...tie-breakers but not for picking the goal of the day.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Not devonin

Given that Xiz needed people to commit to characters in advance, and implied he would be structuring at least theming around the characters, it sounds like you are wanting to opt into a separate wifom for every single player.

Did their pick their favourite, from which we can divine their role?
Did they pick something they thought would get them town/wolf/3p/pr?
Did they pick something unlike what anybody knew about them?

What if 10 people all put in characters that would have made sense to be scum? What if only 3 or 4 people put in characters that would have made sense to be town?

Just feels like a total crapshoot, that maybe we should use for like...tie-breakers but not for picking the goal of the day.

This post makes me realize I might have poorly expressed myself.

Of course we can't go straight with this. Hell someone could have random wikipedia'd their characters and that would fuck up the whole thing. I'm asking if you guys are ok with considering this as a potential tool. There may actually be very little accessible info out of this, or even any possibilities to consider, but that may change mid game.

I personally am fine with including character predictions in my reads if need be, like what I said about Haku a few posts earlier, but a lot of you may be strongly against anyone saying a word about it, because that's not how the game is meant to be played.

This is more an ethical question than a strategic plan.