What the hell Canada....

[Zageron]

Conservative?

Holy ****!

Oh and also, check out the unfairness of this.


Green Party | NO SEATS | 925,825 Votes | 6.8%
Independent | 2 Seats | 89,207 Votes | 0.7%
Bloc Québécois | 49 Seats | 1,369,350 Votes | 10.0%

Green has more than 10 times the number of votes that Independent has, no seats.
Green has only 400,000 votes less than that 'Quebec is better than the rest of Canada' party thing, yet BLOC has 49 seats....

Canada is officially retarded.

Edit:

For USA ppl.

Canada is split into about 308 separate voting areas. Each area, or constituency, has representatives for different parties. (Liberal, Conservative, Green, NDP. Do a google search on them.) So everyone in each constituency votes for the representative of their choice. The winner gets a seat in the House of Commons.

If a party gets over 155 seats then they receive title of Majority government, which means they basically have full power over the government, any less and it's all equal grounds for everyone. (Mind you the more seats you have the better).

The winning party is the party with the most seats.
The leader of the winning party becomes the prime minister.

[Phynx]

Please explain this to me.... WTF are seats and I'm so lost already.

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by Phynx

Please explain this to me.... WTF are seats and I'm so lost already.

Oh yeah. I guess people from USA won't really get this. x.x

[Kekeb]

l2Canadian politics phynx P:

What's wrong with Conservatives Zageron?

also,

Green has more than 10 times the number of votes that Independent has, no seats.
Green has only 400,000 votes less than that 'Quebec is better than the rest of Canada' party thing, yet BLOC has 49 seats....

Canada is officially retarded.

An example, it may only require 1,000 votes to beat the other parties for a seat in one riding. Whereas 6,000 may be needed in another. All BLOC has to do is get votes where it matters, to get a seat with a small amount of votes.

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by Kekeb

l2Canadian politics phynx P:

What's wrong with Conservatives Zageron?

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with conservatives, but at least Liberal started going a bit green.
Besides the point, IMO Canada has become the United Provinces of America (no offence to you Americans, just your government for the past 8 years), we need to gain back our 'the best place to live' title. :\

Also, updates first post. I think I got it all right.

Edit:

And I think all this Bull**** advertising that's been going on is stupid as hell.
Parties shouldn't attack each other, they should play fair. (Yes I know Liberal started it, but they don't need to go all out about it.) The commercials on TV were ridicules.

Edit 2:

Also the conservative website makes them look like ***holes.

[Tater Tot]

So I take it the rest of Canada doesn't like Quebec? Because I'm never hearing anything positive about Quebecians.

Also please explain the Canadian government in a nutshell for me, for I am an American, and here in America we tend not to go into the politics of other countries education-wise. But we sure as hell love to stick our noses into things.

Edit: Nevermind on the nutshell description, I see zageron edited his first post for all us unenlightened Americans.

[NFD]

Canada's never been called that. It's always been "That place above America".

[Kekeb]

Originally Posted by Zageron

Also the conservative website makes them look like ***holes.
http://www.conservative.ca/media/200...age-eDay-e.jpg

All parties are guilty of it. I saw a website recently that was trying to bring down Harper by associating him with George Bush.

Forget about the mudslinging.

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by Kekeb

All parties are guilty of it. I saw a website recently that was trying to bring down Harper by associating him with George Bush.

Forget about the mudslinging.

Green did nothing of the sort. :\
Like Liz May said "Less bloodbath, more democracy."

Also, I don't hate Quebec nor their people. I just think they are a little to selfish. :/

Edit: Wish I could stay and talk more. I just wanted to rant, and then sleep.

Night FFR.

[Waffl3]

I hope your kidding with the conservative remark. Everyone knew it was going to be a conservative minority again. People hate dion, im liberal and i hate the guy. Next elections gonna be a different story. The liberals are gonna win a majority.
im going to sleep, only 4 hours left before school
Man i hate harper, just look at him. Hes a douche.

[jewpinthethird]

Fact: no one cares about the Canadian elections but Canadians.

Suggestion: whoever you elect better invade a country...then maybe people would care about Canada.

Suggestion #2: dissolve your government and become a part of the United States.

Suggestion #3: grow some balls and invade America.

[Tater Tot]

Jewpin, you're f*cking hilarious. I'd be your Jigen any day.

[Tokzic]

conservatives are the least retarded choice

also i bet my mother $500 that conservatives would win even though i voted liberal for the riding bitch what

ps nobody cares about the environment and it's certainly not something you should be basing your vote on

[Shakura]

Originally Posted by jewpinthethird

Fact: no one cares about the Canadian elections but Canadians.

Suggestion: whoever you elect better invade a country...then maybe people would care about Canada.

Suggestion #2: dissolve your government and become a part of the United States.

Suggestion #3: grow some balls and invade America.

Wow...that was just plain stupid. Maybe were MORE PEACEFUL. CANADIANS ARE PEACEFUL. Why would we go to war for pointless humor? Maybe it's a good thing they don't target Canada!

And Every Country needs a Government/President. Not everyone can be apart of the know-it-all Amercians.

And why would we Invade Amercia. The stock will just go down further for the US. The USA/Canada Alliance is a good thing, we are both good traders of resources. Become enemies and it'll be bad. Most of the Lumber comes from Canada, and the fresh water. All you guys have are concrete jungles.

So blah. Stuck up Amercians.

[Tokzic]

somebody's joke detectors are severely damaged

[Chrissi]

I guess I'm really out of touch with what Canadians want, because I seriously didn't think that the conservatives would win this one. I couldn't understand how anyone could vote for them after seeing the debates. Oh man. The poorness of Harper in those debates was painful - he couldn't look at the camera and was constantly staring at some random spot in front of him on the table, maybe his hands...

I also expected the green party to get at least a few seats, I mean, honestly, there was a lot of fuss about them this time around and HOLY **** Elizabeth May did absolutely wonderfully in the debate, she totally shone above everyone else - she's the only one who knew what she was talking about.

Either Canadians are idiots or they didn't watch the freaking debate, which makes me sad. Green deserves more.

And yes, the liberal/conservative choice this time was like trying to choose between a pussy and an asshole. It was pretty stupid. Freaking strategic voting. I don't think anyone wanted Harper or Dion, but people were cockblocking Dion by voting Harper, and Harper by voting Dion, and if everyone would just ****ing vote what they want instead of voting strategically, maybe NDP would have won or something. Christ.

Canadian Politics for Dummies:

I'll give a brief explanation of the Canadian electoral system: it's first past the post (like the US) but the winning party is determined by the number of "seats" they hold, not the proportion of the vote they hold. The ideal situation for a party is to earn more than half the seats and have a majority government. Each seat represents a riding - a small (or sometimes large) geographical area usually defined by city lines or, in the case of large cities like Toronto, split into areas. Toronto has like, I dunno, 10 ridings or something, but all of Nunavut (if you don't know what that is, go look it up) is only one riding because there are lots of people in Toronto and barely any people in Nunavut.

There are 304 or 308 (I forget and I'm too lazy to look it up) ridings in Canada and each represents a seat in the house of commons. In each riding, the proportion of votes is tallied and the representative (a member of a party, conservative, liberal, etc) with the most votes earns the seat for that riding in government. That representative represents you and your local geographic area in government.

What this means is that the proportion of Canadians who vote for a certain party is a pretty useless number when it comes to determining what party is elected. What matters is how many seats a party earned, out of the 300something available - how many of your party members succeeded in their riding and are now representing the riding in government? They earn a seat by getting the most votes in the riding.

If one party (conservatives, for example) earns more than half the seats (over 150-something), it's called a majority government - they have the support of (hopefully) most canadians, but even in this case, you could have far less than half of all Canadians showing support, since, look at this:

Let's make an imaginary Canada with three ridings.
If Riding 1's votes turn out like this:

Conservatives: 34%
Liberals: 33%
Green: 33%

Riding 2's votes:

Liberals: 34%
NDP: 33%
Green: 33%

Riding 3's votes:

Conservatives: 34%
Liberals: 33%
NDP: 33%

You can see that the liberals got more votes overall than the conservatives, but the conservatives would still win government because they won in 2 ridings and the liberals won in 1. 2 vs 1, majority government, we have a conservative PM.

So it's a pretty weird system. I really think a mixed proportional representation would be much better but oh well.

The good thing about it is the conservatives don't have ALL the power. The liberals have that one seat. That means that they share in the decisions in government! They've got a guy in there. But they don't have as much power as the conservatives with 2 seats.

Note: the above may be subject to errors since I am not a political scientist, but it should be roughly correct and can give people an idea of what's going on in Canada.

[freakysnots]

harper is a nazi

boo

[Im Vince]

All Harper wants is to make Canada a USA V2...If it wasnt Dion as the Liberal leader it surely would be a Liberal government and then we would have something good.

[Netjet!]

I think green party or NDP should have won.. adults are retards, let the kids vote too.



Also, in our school's vote, Conservatives won, and NDP and green came in 2nd..

[Devilution]

Yeah once the generation of kids that are in high school gets to vote, I predict the Green will be getting a lot more support. In student vote Green party won at my school but I'm not too sure how it all played out federally.

Also last election there was a bill to change the voting system that would of benefited the Green party. I forget exactly what but it would of fixed the problem that they would get 7% of votes across Canada yet still not get a seat because they couldn't win a single riding, but the majority voted no mainly because people had no clue what it was or what it would do.