TWG 206: Betrayal at House on the Hill GAME THREAD

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Arp!

I wouldn't mind doing that, but there's a good chance they're a townie if they haven't tried to defend themselves yet and I don't feel too great about killing an innocent person

I guess that's just how the first day goes :c

Players with little effort and don't bother to try to post are just not worth having around and is actually awful for the townies and good for the wolves.

[Charu]

Plus, without going too much into it.

FFRTWG has a bad habit of keeping around low posters because they don't post. Now if he didn't post at all, I'd actually wouldn't consider freezin right now.

[MixMasterLar]

Charu, we both know it's in Freezin's town meta to just not check d0 and start playing next phase

If everyone else actually checks in then I could do it but idk if I chose Freezin over other inactives

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Charu

Players with little effort and don't bother to try to post are just not worth having around and is actually awful for the townies and good for the wolves.

Don't recall you sitting on that side of the aisle on this issue in the past

[Charu]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Charu, we both know it's in Freezin's town meta to just not check d0 and start playing next phase

If everyone else actually checks in then I could do it but idk if I chose Freezin over other inactives

It shouldn't be tolerated imo

[Charu]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Don't recall you sitting on that side of the aisle on this issue in the past

Maybe I was in the past, like way before. 7+ years perhaps.

I don't recall wanting inactive alive in a long while now.

[Charu]

Plus, since I just checked player posts

He's a veteran. I'd give Lights more of a pass than Freezin who should know better

[Lights]

That was a lot to read. I work a full time job and have a lot going on, i'm only going to be able to check this thread a couple times a day. If thats enough to incriminate me, so be it, though I think you might find me to be rather useful to keep around c:

[Arp!]

wait, at this point there are several people who are likely to get replaced or kicked out if they don't post, and the day ends in a few hours

would it ever make sense to force an instalynch to save the people who haven't posted enough?

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by Lights

That was a lot to read. I work a full time job and have a lot going on, i'm only going to be able to check this thread a couple times a day. If thats enough to incriminate me, so be it, though I think you might find me to be rather useful to keep around c:

I don't think it's incriminating; you just haven't given everyone else very much to work with (which is totally understandable given the circumstances)

[Lights]

I have no vote to place because I dont think theres enough information to cast an informed vote. just voting for the sake of it risks voting out a townie (most likely outcome) for a pot-shot at hitting someone evil. the odds aren't in our favor voting right now, so I will abstain until we have something to potentially work with.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Arp!

wait, at this point there are several people who are likely to get replaced or kicked out if they don't post, and the day ends in a few hours

would it ever make sense to force an instalynch to save the people who haven't posted enough?

You're incredibly adorable.

Nooo, it doesn't work like that, silly

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Lights

I have no vote to place because I dont think theres enough information to cast an informed vote. just voting for the sake of it risks voting out a townie (most likely outcome) for a pot-shot at hitting someone evil. the odds aren't in our favor voting right now, so I will abstain until we have something to potentially work with.

I will remind new players again a vote is a good thing and flipping *someone* is in our best interest. Don't be afraid of hitting a town player. More likely or not, a D0 ends with a town flip. It's incredibly unlikely to hit a wolf right off the bat.

[Shadow_God_10]

Just about 3 and a half hours remaining in EOD

VOTECOUNT:

FreezinIce- 2 (Voted by NoobiesAreTheBest Post #133 and Arp! Post #138)
NoobiesAreTheBest- 1 (Voted by Charu Post #128)
Lights- 1 (Voted by MixMasterLar Post #197)

[Lights]

Originally Posted by Charu

I will remind new players again a vote is a good thing and flipping *someone* is in our best interest. Don't be afraid of hitting a town player. More likely or not, a D0 ends with a town flip. It's incredibly unlikely to hit a wolf right off the bat.

Which is why I refuse to vote. This is a numbers game, the more townies we keep alive the longer we have to nail down the bad guys. I'm not convinced by your suggestion alone that it is in our best interest. If anything I find your proposal that we need to vote a townie out to be rather suspicious.

[Lights]

Thinking about it, I believe i'll be voting for Charu unless you can convince me that voting for the sake of it could possibly help us. i'll take a silent townie that talks when it matters over someone encouraging a worst-possible odds gamble that will likely lead to us losing a townie that we don't need to.

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by Charu

You're incredibly adorable.

Nooo, it doesn't work like that, silly

wait, how does it work?

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Lights

That was a lot to read. I work a full time job and have a lot going on, i'm only going to be able to check this thread a couple times a day. If thats enough to incriminate me, so be it, though I think you might find me to be rather useful to keep around c:

If you read all of the thread, do you have a list of players that you wouldn't want to vote / would? Do you have players you think are playing better then others?

Originally Posted by Arp!

wait, at this point there are several people who are likely to get replaced or kicked out if they don't post, and the day ends in a few hours

would it ever make sense to force an instalynch to save the people who haven't posted enough?

Why would I save them if they aren't playing the game?

Originally Posted by Lights

Which is why I refuse to vote. This is a numbers game, the more townies we keep alive the longer we have to nail down the bad guys. I'm not convinced by your suggestion alone that it is in our best interest. If anything I find your proposal that we need to vote a townie out to be rather suspicious.

That makes sense, but in practice we've observed that until people have to make a stand and vote it's almost impossible to figure out intent.

If we don't kill (I think nokill is on, it could be off this game) then in the night wolves kill a town, and then what? No one had to make a hard stand, so we still don't have any info past that whoever died wasn't a wolf. It leads us no where. So then what, sleep again? Wolves kill another town and we're 2 down and oops, no one had to make a stand because "not enough info" and we're back on d0 with a horrible ratio of town vs wolves

Lynches yield info

Keep in mind that we win as a team: if someone does d0 but their team wins, they get the W too. We're not forcing someone to lose the game this quickly

[MixMasterLar]

All that said I could be talked into voting Charu but it's more because him getting on Freezin seems a little opportunistic to me

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Lights

Which is why I refuse to vote. This is a numbers game, the more townies we keep alive the longer we have to nail down the bad guys. I'm not convinced by your suggestion alone that it is in our best interest. If anything I find your proposal that we need to vote a townie out to be rather suspicious.

There's something called wagonomics that I wasn't gonna explain until next day phase (if I'm still around!)

Basically, it's taking peoples votes into consideration when we do have a flip. For example, you voted for me and players followed suit. I am then flipped town. Next day phase players can take that info and deduce if your reasons from the previous phase was sincere.

Does that make sense?