TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

[TWG Maple]

Originally Posted by TWG Apollo

Hi I just finished reading from the beginning of the day until now and nothing has happened. Almost all the talk has been about speculating on what happened in the night which doesn't do anyone any good. I get the feeling that wolves are driving the conversation to make it as pointless as possible to get the least information on the coming days.

I will say I do like Eugene Mr swag koala

Please do be more hypocritical. You don't like any of the conversation that's being done yet you like the person that has mostly been the driver in the convo....

[TWG Eugene]

Originally Posted by TWG Chrissy

Julian's chiller to me than they used to be now, don't get me wrong, but that reasoning doesn't make sense to me.

Which part, specifically?

[TWG Apollo]

Originally Posted by TWG Rolf

What are your thoughts on Julian's vote on Del last phase?

Haven't read through EOD yet

Originally Posted by TWG Maple

Please do be more hypocritical. You don't like any of the conversation that's being done yet you like the person that has mostly been the driver in the convo....

Sometimes it be like that to. Gotta hype up your wolf pals

[TWG Apollo]

To>tho*

[TWG Rolf]

Originally Posted by TWG Chrissy

Just... Just cuz they don't know who's a PR doesn't mean that they can't accidentally tunnel one...?

My point being that people are saying Julian voting Del was bad, but that it's even worse that Del's a PR. There's no difference there whether Del was a PR or not. And again, calling that a tunnel I believe is pretty overexaggerated. 'Tunnel' would be more appropriate here if Julian didn't give a shit and kept the vote there anyway calling Del a liar.

[TWG Chrissy]

Originally Posted by TWG Eugene

Which part, specifically?

In all honesty, only part because I was attempting to tunnel Julian in that big post I made earlier, however because I misread that one crucial lack of comma and after reading further up it kinda... nullified everything I was tryna do. I was deadset on it being him and/or anyone else who voted for Del that night. But after everything that's happened I'm kinda rethinking that stance now.

It's one of those "I blew my entire load on one read that fell through" situations rn.

[TWG Rolf]

Like a wolf Julian could've picked literally any other player and voted them instead if the route they were going to go was just make wagons on people to see if they'd out a role. And what would they do if Del never outed? Or if he was just vanilla town? Say oops they messed up and just try it again the next phase?

[TWG Flurry]

Del was a reasonable vote prior claim with the "let's lynch inactives" mentality.
You may remember me trying to support inactives earlier in the game.
What happened to Del is part of it.

Does that mean we should stop lynching inactives and go for an active hypothetical wolf ?
Not really.

[TWG Phil]

Originally Posted by TWG Phil

was hoping to see Eugene lose his shit at Del claiming cop
guess I'll have to wait for tomorrow for it

Originally Posted by TWG Eugene

Oh my God...

I feel like this is gonna be a possible point of contention when Del is around.

I'm near end of EOD and, yes, I was correct. It's a fucking circus

I was SOOOOOOOOOOO CLOSE >

[TWG Phil]

Originally Posted by TWG Fauna

If Roleblocker blocked someone last night, theres a good chance that someone was a wolf

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[TWG Phil]

Originally Posted by TWG Julian

phil also only pushed del to claim despite the vote being tied between del and zucker at that point. why say "if you're around del" and not "if you're around del or zucker"?

I'll give you a hint
its because Zucker hadn't posted in over 24 hours

[TWG Phil]

Originally Posted by TWG Chrissy

question about del

obviously, I was telling Del to claim, if he is a role

[TWG Agent S]

Originally Posted by TWG Rolf

Like a wolf Julian could've picked literally any other player and voted them instead if the route they were going to go was just make wagons on people to see if they'd out a role. And what would they do if Del never outed? Or if he was just vanilla town? Say oops they messed up and just try it again the next phase?

To expand upon the meta I've seen in the past in the way Julian was acting specifically nearing eod;

Julian was perfectly ready to back off of Del closing in on eod, and then Del called out Julian for the lazy amount of pressure they were putting on tons of players, and that if they aren't going to follow through, they should either not do it, or possibly be a wolf. And then took that as a threat so they continued pressure.

Originally Posted by TWG Julian

alright, i suspect you're lying about being indifferent then. you don't care about solving the game as much as keeping up appearances. you acknowledged not pushing your reads that people ignored but still haven't done anything in that respect either.

This is the one biggest example in Julian's post history that shows the flipping back & forth in what they want to do & how they want to exert pressure, but their entire post history coming into eod reeks of exerting pressure for reason to vote someone, and then taking their foot off the gas because of good reasoning or backlash, and then putting their foot on the gas again. When I asked where they were going with this, their arguments for why were just as flimsy.

Originally Posted by TWG Julian

already did!

Originally Posted by TWG Julian

punchy's kinda wolfy! making a big quote post like that is classic wolf behavior! also ruins the thread's feng shui...yuck!

Originally Posted by TWG Julian

not shrugging it off! it's just a classic wolf move to make a post like that! gives them lots of time to go through, read it over, make some edits, make sure it all makes sense before sending it out into the world.

speaking of editing:



what's the name for when a wolf is more likely to make errors like this because they're going back and editing/fine-tuning their posts? can't remember!

otherwise, the content of the post was fine. not wolfy but not towny either.

for your question, the tone change was a combo of having thought over where apollo was pulling that accusation from and also not really having solidified my roleplay voice yet!

I called them out, I got pressure put on me, had a good reason, backed off, and then threw shade again when I peace'd from the thread for 30mins. Like wtf what sort of town pulls that shit. This is prime wolf looking for lynch candidate at eod behavior, not town scum hunting/polling the masses for slips, especially with the reasons being so weak.

I made a large, thought-out post. Have at me, sidekick.

[TWG Phil]

kinda where I'm at rn

Zucker [9]
Flurry, Phil, Tank, Dora, Rolf, Molly, Julian, Boomer, Chief

Flurry, Tank and myself were on Zucker before Del claimed cop, basically dooming Zucker. Dora joined almost immediately after, and had voiced intent to vote for Zucker before Del claimed, so they're in this bracket as well. Del was on Zucker at this time, but moved to Julian before phase end.

I think that its likely that all 4 of these names are villagers: Flurry, Tank, Dora, Phil

I think Flurry looks the best (other than me ofc ) for their progression, they were deciding between Mathilda and Zucker, before deciding to follow me on Zucker after (re?)reading Zucker's Iso

Tank talked about how he "could go either way" between Mathilda and Zucker, and said that he thought he preferred to go for between those names, than go for Del

Dora was talking about voting whoever the lowest person that wouldn't get replaced/modkilled was (which is why I was trying to get Zucker also)

None of these at all feel like a bus, maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe Tank. Its very, very strange for Flurry to be a wolf, given they definitely could've chosen to go on Mathilda, without the team being a very bus-heavy Mathilda/Flurry/Zucker/x world.

All of the other names look pretty bad, aside from Julian, none of them even have additional words in their votes, and I think that looks kinda bad, as I've said before.

To me, it really looks like town started the wagon, and wolves had no choice but to hop on, or risk looking awkward.

After all this, I think I've decided that it makes Punchy kinda townie to go on Chief. I get that he dodged the now overwhelming wolf wagon, but its just not really how I expect most people on FFR to play; I think most people would just resign themselves to voting their low-posting partner as a wolf. If they're a wolf, they have more power in the CFD than they really should imo.

I think people pushing Julian today for outing the cop are probably doing it for bad, post-justification, reasons. I do think, however, that Julian has trended down a bit. I was basically in love with his posts yday, but the more I've read, the less I like his quips about looking at things in hindsight, if that makes any sense. I think the post where he begged people to lynch Del and just resolve Zucker some other way has to look bad, in the end. People pushing him for pushing Del are being stupid/wolfy though.

I think Boomer had an absolutely awful reaction to being voted (he only quoted Fauna, I think), and that makes me feel better about leaving my vote there.

I think Mathilda has had an awful entrance today as well, just being mad at people for stupid reasons. Their part about pushing on Flurry is really, really stupid, and I think its a wolf trying to justify something that they feel like should always look bad for someone. It makes me think they didn't read eod, because Flurry should always look very town to them, given Flurry was the person who really got the Zucker v Mathilda thoughts going towards Zucker, rather than Mathilda.

I think Rolf gets a singular cool point for saying people pushing Julian are doing it for bad reasons, but he's in the list of people who swapped to Zucker without saying anything, so I think that he's only a tiny bit ahead of the rest.

I encourage people to look at Boomer's ISO and see if they see what Flurry has about lack of engagement.

I talked about Chief a bit yday, I think they look really bad for their read on Zucker.

I think Fauna is going about Zucker's ISO the totally wrong way; if people look comfortable interacting with Zucker, then it means they probably don't know he is a wolf; wolves are pretty notorious for being unable to interact with their partners well, but I liked the thought.

Where I'm at for town (this is in order):
Del (pending, etc etc)
Flurry
Dora
Tank
Eugene (not for yesterday, ofc, but for today)
Punchy

Fauna?

people I haven't mentioned are null (I kinda want to put Agent S in my town, but I'm not going to yet)

wolfreads (there are definitely like 2 wolves here based on how yday went):
Rolf (putting him here makes me want to bump him up to null)
Molly
Julian
Chief
Boomer

[TWG Phil]

alright, yeah, Agent S can be in my town for that post, put them below Eugene and above Punchy

[TWG Phil]

ah, one last thing, Mathilda is where she is for her play today, not yday
same reasoning as my townread on Eugene, just a different boat

[TWG Mathilda]

Originally Posted by TWG Phil

kinda where I'm at rn

Zucker [9]
Flurry, Phil, Tank, Dora, Rolf, Molly, Julian, Boomer, Chief

Flurry, Tank and myself were on Zucker before Del claimed cop, basically dooming Zucker. Dora joined almost immediately after, and had voiced intent to vote for Zucker before Del claimed, so they're in this bracket as well. Del was on Zucker at this time, but moved to Julian before phase end.

I think that its likely that all 4 of these names are villagers: Flurry, Tank, Dora, Phil

I think Flurry looks the best (other than me ofc ) for their progression, they were deciding between Mathilda and Zucker, before deciding to follow me on Zucker after (re?)reading Zucker's Iso

Tank talked about how he "could go either way" between Mathilda and Zucker, and said that he thought he preferred to go for between those names, than go for Del

Dora was talking about voting whoever the lowest person that wouldn't get replaced/modkilled was (which is why I was trying to get Zucker also)

None of these at all feel like a bus, maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe Tank. Its very, very strange for Flurry to be a wolf, given they definitely could've chosen to go on Mathilda, without the team being a very bus-heavy Mathilda/Flurry/Zucker/x world.

All of the other names look pretty bad, aside from Julian, none of them even have additional words in their votes, and I think that looks kinda bad, as I've said before.

To me, it really looks like town started the wagon, and wolves had no choice but to hop on, or risk looking awkward.

After all this, I think I've decided that it makes Punchy kinda townie to go on Chief. I get that he dodged the now overwhelming wolf wagon, but its just not really how I expect most people on FFR to play; I think most people would just resign themselves to voting their low-posting partner as a wolf. If they're a wolf, they have more power in the CFD than they really should imo.

I think people pushing Julian today for outing the cop are probably doing it for bad, post-justification, reasons. I do think, however, that Julian has trended down a bit. I was basically in love with his posts yday, but the more I've read, the less I like his quips about looking at things in hindsight, if that makes any sense. I think the post where he begged people to lynch Del and just resolve Zucker some other way has to look bad, in the end. People pushing him for pushing Del are being stupid/wolfy though.

I think Boomer had an absolutely awful reaction to being voted (he only quoted Fauna, I think), and that makes me feel better about leaving my vote there.

I think Mathilda has had an awful entrance today as well, just being mad at people for stupid reasons. Their part about pushing on Flurry is really, really stupid, and I think its a wolf trying to justify something that they feel like should always look bad for someone. It makes me think they didn't read eod, because Flurry should always look very town to them, given Flurry was the person who really got the Zucker v Mathilda thoughts going towards Zucker, rather than Mathilda.

I think Rolf gets a singular cool point for saying people pushing Julian are doing it for bad reasons, but he's in the list of people who swapped to Zucker without saying anything, so I think that he's only a tiny bit ahead of the rest.

I encourage people to look at Boomer's ISO and see if they see what Flurry has about lack of engagement.

I talked about Chief a bit yday, I think they look really bad for their read on Zucker.

I think Fauna is going about Zucker's ISO the totally wrong way; if people look comfortable interacting with Zucker, then it means they probably don't know he is a wolf; wolves are pretty notorious for being unable to interact with their partners well, but I liked the thought.

Where I'm at for town (this is in order):
Del (pending, etc etc)
Flurry
Dora
Tank
Eugene (not for yesterday, ofc, but for today)
Punchy

Fauna?

people I haven't mentioned are null (I kinda want to put Agent S in my town, but I'm not going to yet)

wolfreads (there are definitely like 2 wolves here based on how yday went):
Rolf (putting him here makes me want to bump him up to null)
Molly
Julian
Chief
Boomer

Lmao seriously? Did you even read anything else I said? I don't care how towny they looked at eod what they said sounds like. A huge slip and I'm not going to pretend it didn't happen.

[TWG Phil]

Originally Posted by TWG Mathilda

Lmao seriously? Did you even read anything else I said? I don't care how towny they looked at eod what they said sounds like. A huge slip and I'm not going to pretend it didn't happen.

slips don't exist

[TWG Phil]

good to see you don't give a shit about anything I said other than my read on you, though

[TWG Mathilda]

I'm on my phone because I'm not home, I'm not available to dig through everything at the moment. But I think what you said about me is lazy af so yeah I'm going to call you out on it. And what do you mean slips don't exist? There's a wolf role blocker that sounded very much like a duh I'd block the cop.