Ghosts, anybody?

MalReynolds · 12-15-2003, 09:41 PM

How bout them? Moreover, do you believe they exist? Do you think they can be malicious? Opinions, stories...

Mal

JustJono · 12-15-2003, 10:35 PM

Read about demons. They're quite interesting.
Mischievous, 2 dimensional, black figures running around your peripheral vision. I don't mind ghosts though.

MalReynolds · 12-15-2003, 10:46 PM

Those are... uh... geeze... I think they're called shadows. I think. I dunno though. I have read about them before...

I think I've seen some, too. Creepy fuckers.

Mal

Omeganitros · 12-15-2003, 11:12 PM

I believe in ghosts. Though probably most of my fear at scary times are just manifested by myself thinking that something's out there invisible that wants something from me (my soul?), believeing keeps life from being dull.
What was that one MTV show where they sent people to supernatural areas for college money? That show was awesome.

**lightdarkness** · 12-16-2003, 10:01 AM

I dont have much time to respond, im in school (computer programming)
I dont belive in ghosts, but i belive in optical illusions
people might see reflections of light, or the wind blow something
they might make them belive what they see as something that its not.

Thats my take, but, yeah!

Anticrombie0909 · 12-16-2003, 11:31 AM

I keep going back to this...but I don't believe in 'ghosts', per se. I believe that remmnants of the human mind can be left behind, or make a virtual 'mindprint' on whatever it is that they are now 'haunting'. I think that ghosts are nothing more than powerful mental projections by the deceased.

**Freak83** · 12-16-2003, 12:19 PM

I think that there is just so many stories of ghost sightings and hauntings it's impossible for them not to be true. I'm not saying all of them are true, but some of them have to be... There's way too many.

**lightdarkness** · 12-16-2003, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Freak83

I think that there is just so many stories of ghost sightings and hauntings it's impossible for them not to be true. I'm not saying all of them are true, but some of them have to be... There's way too many.

so are you saying alieans are real?
because there have been tons of sightings too, and a lot of people say their true!

RobbyZero · 12-16-2003, 04:30 PM

Don't believe in them but I believe some people may be able to sense their presence and stuff...

IAMTHEEVILBEAN · 12-16-2003, 04:35 PM

I dont think they exist......like in my post in the paranornmal

I think they exist....but are in a giant room somewhere where everyone has a TV screen......they can watch whoever they want and press buttons that say like "say hello*

thats how all the nutjobs are all like "I TALKED tO MY GRANDMA"

fact

heyhey11 · 12-16-2003, 04:41 PM

they dont exist

**Cenright** · 12-16-2003, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lightdarkness

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Originally Posted by Freak83

I think that there is just so many stories of ghost sightings and hauntings it's impossible for them not to be true. I'm not saying all of them are true, but some of them have to be... There's way too many.

so are you saying alieans are real?
because there have been tons of sightings too, and a lot of people say their true!

Sorry, but most of those people WANT to see them and so their mind actually gives them small things to hold on to. You would look at the same thing, and while they say they KNOW it was a ghost, you pretty much think it was the shadow of a cat walking by. Your mind does this all the time.

EX.
You are reading through text really quickly and when you go back, you see that a few of the longer words are ones that you had mistaken for different words. You saw a few letters and your mind filled in the rest. When you look back, you wonder how you ever mistook the word for another because, except for a feel letters and the length of the word, it wasn't similar at all.

(Ghosts aren't real. Alcohol and Marijuana are.)

12-16-2003, 04:51 PM

I was taking a seminar about memory once. This seems off-topic at the moment but it will get interesting. Turns out people have an "audible memory" and a "cognitive memory" (i think that's what the last one is called.) Basically, the audible memory records stuff you've heard and cognitive memory records stuff you've experienced yourself. So basically, if the cognitive memory kicks in when you're recalling stuff, then you're telling the truth.

Remember the sniper attacks in D.C.? And how everyone thought there was a white van involved, when there was no white van? They did tests of the brain waves of those people and found that they really hadn't witnessed a white van, they just thought they had witnessed a white van. The cognitive memory hadn't kicked in.

I hope I remembered all that stuff correctly

But this relates to the ghost/alien thing in this manner: If you want to believe something bad enough, it is possible to keep telling yourself it's true to the point where you will actually think it's true.

JustJono · 12-16-2003, 04:54 PM

Or the other way around. Ghosts (if you believe in them) may have been seen by many people, but those people may have been too busy or zoned out to realize what they had just seen.

Ok, kind of the other way around~

Falcon · 12-17-2003, 09:54 AM

heres another example of your mind controlling how you perceive things.

think about how it feels to have a bug crawling on you. now, start to think that there is one crawling on your shoulder. if you do this for several seconds... you will actually feel like there is something there and have the urge to brush the imaginary bug off. its kinda weird.

ghosts are an interesting thing to think about. i've seen lots of shows and read several things online about encounters people have had, many of which have really gotten me thinking. some of the mysteries are somewhat explained in the paranormal post, but things like "seeing a girl that has been dead for 50 years in the window of an old sanitorium" and stuff like that still seems a little out there. either, in my opinion, people or making things up to gain some sort of fame for themselves or for the place that has a "ghost", seeing things because there mind is telling them they are, or there is really something going on. for whoever said something about that MTV show, i remember it. dont remember the name, but it was really interesting. i would say a vast majority of that was mind games, considering they were basically goin underground into the pitch darkness of an old warehouse (or whatever) with meters that were telling them that there was paranormal activity around them. still, if anyone has anything definitive to say about this stuff or any websites, i'd read it.

heres something one of my buddies posted thats pretty interesting...
http://www.prairieghosts.com/waverly_tb.html

ringluver · 12-18-2003, 10:35 AM

i know they are real i have seen one in my house i knife floting stabing our turkey on thanksgiving

HNJhack · 12-18-2003, 12:25 PM

ok, i'pretty sure that nobody has saidthis yet, but here is my thoery. they don't exist. personally i think that it is just an illusion of the mind/eyes. here is a good example of how the mind fucks with your vision.

everyone has a blind spot in each eye. it varies from person to person, but it is there. if you sit faceing a wall of one color and hold your hand out, with your thumb up, and slowly move it across the plane of vision, it must be in your periferal view! The top part of your thumb will dissapear. and you will just see the wall instead. it is the mind filling in the blank spot, this could cause people to "see ghosts". ^_^

ringluver · 12-18-2003, 12:28 PM

weall have our own thoughts

Scarlette · 12-18-2003, 02:18 PM

Ghosts don't exist, but spirits do.

They can be evil or good.

JustJono · 12-18-2003, 05:02 PM

I use the term ghost for spirits. I use the word spirit orbs for orbs.

12-15-2003, 09:41 PM	#1
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12-15-2003, 10:35 PM	#2
JustJono FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 283	Read about demons. They're quite interesting. Mischievous, 2 dimensional, black figures running around your peripheral vision. I don't mind ghosts though. __________________ Jonathan Cruz http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

12-15-2003, 10:46 PM	#3
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Those are... uh... geeze... I think they're called shadows. I think. I dunno though. I have read about them before... I think I've seen some, too. Creepy fuckers. Mal __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

12-16-2003, 10:01 AM	#5
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	I dont have much time to respond, im in school (computer programming) I dont belive in ghosts, but i belive in optical illusions people might see reflections of light, or the wind blow something they might make them belive what they see as something that its not. Thats my take, but, yeah! __________________

12-16-2003, 04:54 PM	#14
JustJono FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 283	Or the other way around. Ghosts (if you believe in them) may have been seen by many people, but those people may have been too busy or zoned out to realize what they had just seen. Ok, kind of the other way around~ __________________ Jonathan Cruz http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

12-15-2003, 11:12 PM	#4
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	I believe in ghosts. Though probably most of my fear at scary times are just manifested by myself thinking that something's out there invisible that wants something from me (my soul?), believeing keeps life from being dull. What was that one MTV show where they sent people to supernatural areas for college money? That show was awesome.

12-16-2003, 11:31 AM	#6
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	I keep going back to this...but I don't believe in 'ghosts', per se. I believe that remmnants of the human mind can be left behind, or make a virtual 'mindprint' on whatever it is that they are now 'haunting'. I think that ghosts are nothing more than powerful mental projections by the deceased.

12-16-2003, 12:19 PM	#7
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	I think that there is just so many stories of ghost sightings and hauntings it's impossible for them not to be true. I'm not saying all of them are true, but some of them have to be... There's way too many.

12-16-2003, 04:30 PM	#9
RobbyZero FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 4,613	Don't believe in them but I believe some people may be able to sense their presence and stuff...

12-16-2003, 04:35 PM	#10
IAMTHEEVILBEAN FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,078	I dont think they exist......like in my post in the paranornmal I think they exist....but are in a giant room somewhere where everyone has a TV screen......they can watch whoever they want and press buttons that say like "say hello* thats how all the nutjobs are all like "I TALKED tO MY GRANDMA" fact

12-16-2003, 04:51 PM	#13
User6773 Guest Posts: n/a	I was taking a seminar about memory once. This seems off-topic at the moment but it will get interesting. Turns out people have an "audible memory" and a "cognitive memory" (i think that's what the last one is called.) Basically, the audible memory records stuff you've heard and cognitive memory records stuff you've experienced yourself. So basically, if the cognitive memory kicks in when you're recalling stuff, then you're telling the truth. Remember the sniper attacks in D.C.? And how everyone thought there was a white van involved, when there was no white van? They did tests of the brain waves of those people and found that they really hadn't witnessed a white van, they just thought they had witnessed a white van. The cognitive memory hadn't kicked in. I hope I remembered all that stuff correctly But this relates to the ghost/alien thing in this manner: If you want to believe something bad enough, it is possible to keep telling yourself it's true to the point where you will actually think it's true.

12-17-2003, 09:54 AM	#15
Falcon FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 433	heres another example of your mind controlling how you perceive things. think about how it feels to have a bug crawling on you. now, start to think that there is one crawling on your shoulder. if you do this for several seconds... you will actually feel like there is something there and have the urge to brush the imaginary bug off. its kinda weird. ghosts are an interesting thing to think about. i've seen lots of shows and read several things online about encounters people have had, many of which have really gotten me thinking. some of the mysteries are somewhat explained in the paranormal post, but things like "seeing a girl that has been dead for 50 years in the window of an old sanitorium" and stuff like that still seems a little out there. either, in my opinion, people or making things up to gain some sort of fame for themselves or for the place that has a "ghost", seeing things because there mind is telling them they are, or there is really something going on. for whoever said something about that MTV show, i remember it. dont remember the name, but it was really interesting. i would say a vast majority of that was mind games, considering they were basically goin underground into the pitch darkness of an old warehouse (or whatever) with meters that were telling them that there was paranormal activity around them. still, if anyone has anything definitive to say about this stuff or any websites, i'd read it. heres something one of my buddies posted thats pretty interesting... http://www.prairieghosts.com/waverly_tb.html __________________

12-18-2003, 10:35 AM	#16
ringluver FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In Halo or FFR Posts: 166	i know they are real i have seen one in my house i knife floting stabing our turkey on thanksgiving __________________ In the immortal words of stewie griffin: I LIKE YOU when the world is mine, your death shall be quick and painless.

12-18-2003, 12:25 PM	#17
HNJhack FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 101	ok, i'pretty sure that nobody has saidthis yet, but here is my thoery. they don't exist. personally i think that it is just an illusion of the mind/eyes. here is a good example of how the mind fucks with your vision. everyone has a blind spot in each eye. it varies from person to person, but it is there. if you sit faceing a wall of one color and hold your hand out, with your thumb up, and slowly move it across the plane of vision, it must be in your periferal view! The top part of your thumb will dissapear. and you will just see the wall instead. it is the mind filling in the blank spot, this could cause people to "see ghosts". ^_^ __________________ - 無秩序の神

12-18-2003, 12:28 PM	#18
ringluver FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In Halo or FFR Posts: 166	weall have our own thoughts __________________ In the immortal words of stewie griffin: I LIKE YOU when the world is mine, your death shall be quick and painless.

12-18-2003, 02:18 PM	#19
Scarlette FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wherever you're not Posts: 387	Ghosts don't exist, but spirits do. They can be evil or good. __________________ ROCK FOR LIFE

12-18-2003, 05:02 PM	#20
JustJono FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 283	I use the term ghost for spirits. I use the word spirit orbs for orbs. __________________ Jonathan Cruz http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

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