TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 - Page 175

**TC_Halogen** · 10-31-2010, 11:13 AM

Would you like any help with the new values?

OneHandNow · 10-31-2010, 11:16 AM

Good to hear that

**i love you** · 10-31-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Would you like any help with the new values?

It's being handled by someone else so don't worry about it.

bob bob · 10-31-2010, 11:54 AM

aw well, guess my stuff was useless then :P

**TC_Halogen** · 10-31-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by i love you

It's being handled by someone else so don't worry about it.

Alright - just thought I would ask.

**DossarLX ODI** · 10-31-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by awein999

devour should be AAA 9/9

lol

While there's piss easy 9/9's like Death Piano 300 or fewer and RATO 350 or fewer, DeVouR AAA being a 9/9 is like Revolutionary Etude's 9/9 (really, 20 or fewer on Revo is way too ****ing rough compared to every other 9/9).

As a general rule of thumb: 8/8s should be modified so around 12-20 players are able to achieve it in general. 9/9s should be made so around 4-6 are able to achieve it. Any higher would potentially become 10/10 (like my 20g 2av on RATO, that surpasses the 9/9 by a crapload). Not all 9/9s are supposed to be equal but some are just stupid.

I should also add that some 7/7 reqs should be changed. Especially Caprice and flight of the bumblebee.

**i love you** · 10-31-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

As a general rule of thumb: 8/8s should be modified so around 12-20 players are able to achieve it in general. 9/9s should be made so around 4-6 are able to achieve it. Any higher would potentially become 10/10 (like my 20g 2av on RATO, that surpasses the 9/9 by a crapload). Not all 9/9s are supposed to be equal but some are just stupid.

RATO, Revolutionary Etude, and Death Piano will be re-adjusted so don't worry about those. Also, making 8/8's or 9/9's adjusted so that only a certain number of players can achieve it is a bit biased seeing that people will just continue to get better and more will be able to get within the 8/8 and 9/9 range. Hell, there's a lot more people now that can get these requirements. We have better ways of figuring out what the requirements should be for each file.

EDIT: FOTBB and Caprice are fine as they are.

OneHandNow · 10-31-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

lol

While there's piss easy 9/9's like Death Piano 300 or fewer and RATO 350 or fewer, DeVouR AAA being a 9/9 is like Revolutionary Etude's 9/9 (really, 20 or fewer on Revo is way too ****ing rough compared to every other 9/9).

As a general rule of thumb: 8/8s should be modified so around 12-20 players are able to achieve it in general. 9/9s should be made so around 4-6 are able to achieve it. Any higher would potentially become 10/10 (like my 20g 2av on RATO, that surpasses the 9/9 by a crapload). Not all 9/9s are supposed to be equal but some are just stupid.

I should also add that some 7/7 reqs should be changed. Especially Caprice and flight of the bumblebee.

Nah. I'm rank 9 on Death Piano with and I still have 8/9 on it.
Only 5 people have 9/9 on Death Piano. That seems about right.

The tier points are fine as they are now - we need more additions though. A few more 8s and 9s maybe? Possibly downgrading some 7s to 6s and adding more 7s.

**DossarLX ODI** · 10-31-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by i love you

RATO, Revolutionary Etude, and Death Piano will be re-adjusted so don't worry about those. Also, making 8/8's or 9/9's adjusted so that only a certain number of players can achieve it is a bit biased seeing that people will just continue to get better and more will be able to get within the 8/8 and 9/9 range. Hell, there's a lot more people now that can get these requirements.

EDIT: FOTBB and Caprice are fine as they are.

I meant that as a general range. Requirements should be adjusted according to the song (hence why some requirements are 1 or fewer instead of AAA for the max tier points possible, etc). Some files will have more 9/9s achieved than others, just like any other requirement.

I'm still just really sketchy about the two 13s because everyone is making the file a lot harder than it should be and getting ridiculously high PA by too much mashing where it's not needed, while the requirements for other files are much more strict. The 7/7 on FOTBB has only around 30? achieved while the 8/8 on Adventures of Lolo has 35, etc.

**i love you** · 10-31-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I meant that as a general range. Requirements should be adjusted according to the song (hence why some requirements are 1 or fewer instead of AAA for the max tier points possible, etc).

That would be correct for the most part

EDIT: Also, the difficultly of patterns inside the simfile also plays a big role as well.

**DossarLX ODI** · 10-31-2010, 02:04 PM

How about backgrounds too? That is a big reason why some files have much less AAA's than they should have.

**i love you** · 10-31-2010, 02:11 PM

That is true but unfortunately, we can't do anything about that until the staff members decide to remove them off the game. If they happen to remove the backgrounds in the future then we will re-adjust the requirements for each file that had those backgrounds accordingly.

MrRubix · 10-31-2010, 02:19 PM

Who has control over this stuff

**i love you** · 10-31-2010, 02:27 PM

I would have to say Synthlight.

EDIT: Unless if you were referring to the updating of Tier Points then try looking at the front page.

MrRubix · 10-31-2010, 03:13 PM

Does aperson?

**Sprite-** · 10-31-2010, 03:33 PM

It would be Synth's decision to ever remove backgrounds. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't agree with it.

MrRubix · 10-31-2010, 03:44 PM

Removing the backgrounds isn't all that tough (just need to decompile the swf into fla and remove the background, then re-export the swf) but you'd need write access to the song folder.

**Sprite-** · 10-31-2010, 03:46 PM

It's not about it being tough to do, Synth has a thing about preserving everything. He was very reluctant to fix avmisses because of this, but I guess there was just too much overwhelming attitudes towards doing it.

MrRubix · 10-31-2010, 03:51 PM

Ah yeah that's right -- same reason he didn't want to re-skin the bluenote files. Preserving early-FFR history and all that.

Besides, I kinda agree with that logic where those files are concerned.

**Etylukah** · 10-31-2010, 04:04 PM

An option to toggle backgrounds on/off like the ones showing accuracy sounds more like the way to compromise so you can still show backgrounds for nostalgia's sake and put them off for gameplay but..

The real question is more likely to be how does Synthlight wants FFR to be in the future? I mean, what's the plan after getting this site up again?

10-31-2010, 11:13 AM	#3481
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 Would you like any help with the new values?

10-31-2010, 11:16 AM	#3482
OneHandNow Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,305	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 Good to hear that

10-31-2010, 11:54 AM	#3484
bob bob This Is How We Do It~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portsmouth,United Kingdom Age: 28 Posts: 3,226	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 aw well, guess my stuff was useless then :P __________________ Best AAA's: NAINAI69, Eradication, Since 1983 Best Non AAA's: Gunkienen Tarusuigin, (1-0-1-1), Pandora (6-0-1-0) Rotary Slicers MISSFLAG Waiting for 2 Million members... 5th Place: 7th Official Tournament D5

10-31-2010, 02:11 PM	#3492
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 That is true but unfortunately, we can't do anything about that until the staff members decide to remove them off the game. If they happen to remove the backgrounds in the future then we will re-adjust the requirements for each file that had those backgrounds accordingly. __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

10-31-2010, 02:19 PM	#3493
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 Who has control over this stuff __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-31-2010, 02:27 PM	#3494
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 I would have to say Synthlight. EDIT: Unless if you were referring to the updating of Tier Points then try looking at the front page. __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ =============================== Last edited by i love you; 10-31-2010 at 02:40 PM..

10-31-2010, 03:13 PM	#3495
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 Does aperson? __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-31-2010, 03:33 PM	#3496
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 It would be Synth's decision to ever remove backgrounds. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't agree with it.

10-31-2010, 03:44 PM	#3497
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 Removing the backgrounds isn't all that tough (just need to decompile the swf into fla and remove the background, then re-export the swf) but you'd need write access to the song folder. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-31-2010, 03:46 PM	#3498
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 It's not about it being tough to do, Synth has a thing about preserving everything. He was very reluctant to fix avmisses because of this, but I guess there was just too much overwhelming attitudes towards doing it.

10-31-2010, 03:51 PM	#3499
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 Ah yeah that's right -- same reason he didn't want to re-skin the bluenote files. Preserving early-FFR history and all that. Besides, I kinda agree with that logic where those files are concerned. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-31-2010, 04:04 PM	#3500
Etylukah Ultimate Gamer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 491	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 An option to toggle backgrounds on/off like the ones showing accuracy sounds more like the way to compromise so you can still show backgrounds for nostalgia's sake and put them off for gameplay but.. The real question is more likely to be how does Synthlight wants FFR to be in the future? I mean, what's the plan after getting this site up again?

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