Rap is technically music

[flashflash account]

sunfan told me to make this thread

while it fits the technical definition of music I don't really consider it music there's probably not enough pitch for me to call it music

I'll readily admit that I haven't heard a lot of rap (because it's not really the kind of music I listen to) so I could just be listening to bad rap

sunfan seemed to think I would be crucified for posting this here, interested in yalls takes

[Funnygurl555]

i'd recommend jon lajoie if you want to get into good rap

[Funnygurl555]

you know who else was crucified? jesus

you know who actually predicted dbp was a wolf in the champs game? also jesus

[WhatWhat123]

if shapiro says it's not music, im inclined to believe the man who DESTROYS logic-less leftists with FACTS and KNOWLEDGE

[Moria]

people are just meat instruments

[the sun fan]

its not "technically" music
it IS music

[SK8R43]

So mumble rap is music? HA
hahaha

[mellonxcollie]

One way I think you might be able to reframe how you see rap is to looking at the musical backing behind the actual rapping, especially songs that use samples

Here is a song that samples one of my favourite bands, Beach House

Here's the original song

See how Kendrick and his producers manipulated the original song to create something of their own that sounds completely different? While still paying homage to the original and doing it justice.

Not to even mention Kendrick's lyrics, this is a really old track of his but the lyrics to this song kinda changed how I saw relationships back in the day (it's about a guy cheating on his gf just because, through no fault of hers)

[Gravity Kitten]

this is bait

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Gravity Kitten

this is bait

its something he believes
and yes, he did post it because I egged him to do it
its not bait

[Not devonin]

Yeah, rap is not technically music. Rap is music by basically any reasonable standards that actual musicians would apply.

People who think rap isn't music are just being arbitrarily normative and probably prejudiced.

there's probably not enough pitch for me to call it music

The music in rap has plenty of pitch pretty much all the time. Are you referring to pitch in lyrics? If that's the case, how is music with no lyrics music, but music that would be music with no lyrics, suddenly become not music because a rapper is maintaining a steady pitch in the lyrics? Also, does that mean the band 'Cake' is also not music? He's super monotonous in most of his songs.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Not devonin

I was quoting the results of a formal scientific poll so...?

Hey we sure you weren't already leaning into politics back on like page 1 though?

Originally Posted by Not devonin

People who think rap isn't music are just being arbitrarily normative and probably prejudiced.

I mean not that I needed a magic 8 ball to tell you this was how it was going to end. I have legit never seen this debate go any other way.

[Coolboyrulez0]

>Critical Thinking

[rushyrulz]

i like these

but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre

[Not devonin]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

i like these

but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre

How about something like

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by Not devonin

How about something like

nah

[Dinglesberry]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre

i wouldnt consider that Malaa song rap lol, the genre is called Shallow House (also i love Malaa, i charted notorious actually a while back)

how about someone like nujabes tho thats good rap artist/producer

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

i like these

but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre

Everything by NF is crazy good.

[Rapta]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Everything by NF is crazy good.

Can confirm, I too have listened to NF and love his stuff

[Dinglesberry]

does linkin park rapping over their songs count as rap