TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[dadcop2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Oh no I'm forgetting his "If people vote me they must be a woof!" spiel. My bad

yeah i really didn't like that. anyone and everyone can say that

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

holding you to this FYI

speaking of which

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I don't know if you've giving us as much content as I would have liked, dAnce. What's your current reads list?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dadcop2

yeah maybe

similar situation with storn do u think?

a little bit

storn give reads

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Hot read:

I think that's slightly out of character for you. You usually do things like asking others if they are wolves, but I don't have tendency to see you "dance" on the idea of being a wolf yourself.
tl;dr: I don't think Town MML would leave that kind of post here even as a shitpost.

Closest thing I could find about me mentioning "other wolves" after isoing myself. #136

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Closest thing I could find about me mentioning "other wolves" after isoing myself. #136

Did someone bring up that you said other wolves and you're finally responding to it, or do you want me to respond to how wrong this is for the second time?

[R.E. Aryxi]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Do you have the quote? I want to check context.

Effort meta was wolf last time i saw:

Haku's Effort posts as wolf during Turbo XI:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Well, here's a long post. It's a fairly serious attempt at evaluating what's going on. Looking forward to feedback and questions.

Here's an attempt at putting actions that sounded relevant to me together.
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Chronological order of events:

PAGE 1

- thesunfan started the seer wagon and checked psychoangel691
- Hakulyte checked R.E Aryxi
- juckter1 checked Hakulyte.
- R.E Aryxi checked ShadoWolfe.
- ShadoWolfe checked Tokzic.
- psychoangel691 checked juckter1.
- ShadoWolfe posted a Snivy picture for the laughs an interactions.
- psychoangel691 mention that she didn't sleep much and was really busy.
- R.E Aryxi sounds amused by ShadoWolfe's Charu mention and add a beautiful picture of Kappa.
- ShadoWolfe post a relatively weird post @ #17 (first notable inconsistency) 1
- thesunfan vote ShadoWolfe "semi-seriously" as a reaction from the post.
- juckter1 is saying "nice bird" to ShadoWolfe. (second notable inconsistency) 2
- ShadoWolfe mention how the vote is stupid from his point of view and proceed to discard it and comment on YoshL's avatar. (third notable inconsistency(?)) 3

END OF PAGE 1

PAGE 2

- juckter1 ask for further explanation about thesunfan's vote.
- thesunfan mention that ShadoWolfe's post was weird, but not "very weird". (?) 4
- MML joins the game, check Hakulyte and mention the lack of commitment to the vote from thesunfan. (!)
- juckter town-lean thesunfan even tho his play was non-committal (?) 5
- Pazzaz joins the game, no check on anyone. --
- juckter ask an open question about thesunfan vs ShadoWolfe interaction. (?!) 6
- Pazzaz says non-alignment indicative things. --
- MML mention to juckter that he doesn't appreciate how juckter his town-leaning thesunfan.
- MML seems to have misread (or not) Pazzaz and try to challenge him about his alignment.
- R.E Aryxi mentions the he thinks thesunfan and ShadoWolfe are null.
- MML tries to generate interactions.
- Pazzaz replies to MML in a convincing-looking way.
- thesunfan questions juckter's reasoning for town-leaning him.
- juckter gives a reason that leaves me confused @ #40

END OF PAGE 2

PAGE 3

- ShadoWolfe is posting the most relevant thing in the game so far fmpov @ #44 7
- MML asks R.E Aryxi if he's a wolf, he says no. (not really alignment indicative)
- MML spots a contradiction.
- juckter finally gives an answer that makes some sense. @ #52 (!) 8
- MML asks Haku to say hi.
*Nothing particularly important happens from this point*

END OF PAGE 3

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Now this is the part where I actually give reads. (fmpov)

Explanations from my point of view: (refer to numbers in bold in previous section)

1. I would like ShadoWolfe to explain me what he was thinking about while posting that post to psychoangel691 because it doesn't make sense to me to "not care" at first but then mention that "you care".

2. In the previous game, Gradiant was posting pictures of hyenas and and there was some shitposting about what it was. I thought it was odd to use such a reference here as if something from the previous game was relevant to this one. It makes me question juckter's state of mind because he was wolf in the previous game.

3. This is another reason why I'm not discarding my first point here.

4. thesunfan loss town points from backing off from his vote too early on ShadoWolfe. It sounded like he wasn't eager to really find answers and I didn't like it.

5. This is a continuation of my confusion about juckter feeling off from the game.

6. juckter ask an open question about thesunfan vs ShadoWolfe in terms of reading.

- I believe ShadoWolfe is currently Null to Town in terms of attitude/interactions, but I would like further explanations as to what he had in mind in the post that made him get voted by thesunfan.
- thesunfan started the Seer wagon, voted ShadoWolfe and looked pretty good at first, but the lack of commitment to his own push was pretty confusing to me. What made you back off from ShadoWolfe thesunfan?

7. ShadoWolfe posts seriously and is relevant about juckter. Looking pro-town.

8. juckter is saying that the content of the posts is townish, but not the actions? I'm still not convinced, but that does make more sense.

tl;dr:
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Reads in term of alignments atm
Players
1. thesunfan Null (I hope you commit yourself into finding answers a little more in the future.)
2. Hakulyte Null (I should post more tbh)
3. Tokzic Null (0 post?)
4. Pazzaz Null (He looked pretty solid overall, but I don't have anything about him that sounded too "alignment-indicative)
5. juckter1 Null, possibly Wolf-lean (?!) (I'm still not convinced by what you said so far.)
6. ShadoWolfe Null to Town (I liked his game so far, but I'm still confused about what he was thinking when he answered to psychoangel691)
7. R.E. Aryxi Null (you're extremely hard to place anywhere as you've been mostly just tagging along so far.)
8. psychoangel691 Null (didn't sleep much, was busy based on her first few posts)
9. MixMasterLar Null to Town (very engaging and searching for answers)

Here's some irrelevant shitposting:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Here's the quotes in question:

This is your post

That's his answer

That's his original post you quoted and reworded

While it's true that he just throwed back your answer at you, I think he felt genuinely frustrated at how you reworded his previous post.

"Have played several similar games before but never [as a] werewolf." (your reword)
vs
"Seems fun, looking forward to seeing it play out. Have played several similar games before but never werewolf." (his original post)

He's refering to the "werewolf" forums @ TWG. I'm not sure why he's mentioning "but never as wolf" tho. That's worth tinfoiling about I guess.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm going to put the tinfoil hat on my head and dare to check the votes for D0 even if it's fair to assume that people aren't certain of who to vote for. It's more as a reference for the posts locations than how I'm reading them, but I would like some feedback if I mentioned you.

thesunfan voted ShadoWolfe #18 - (fishing for information (?)) [unvoted]
thesunfan voted MixMasterLar #139 - (he seems to believe there's a wolf between ShadoWolfe and MixMasterLar (?)) #141 This is supporting the idea (?)
psychoangel691 voted ShadoWolfe #143 Pretty irrelevant at this point based on flips.
Hakulyte voted thesunfan #149 (Not buying the vote on MML) #144 (Post about my meta + concerns about thesunfan)
MixMasterLar voted Hakulyte #159 - "I really really can't get that meta point I made out of my head earlier" Tell me more about it.
Hakulyte unvoted #166 - At this point, I was confused by thesunfan throwing quotes at me about MML being a wolf target and I realized that I would be unlikely to have enough time to address them all and make a case. I second guessed and unvoted.
R.E Aryxi voted ShadoWolfe #178 - "changing your suggestion details later on doesn't sit right with me" Yeah, I also noticed he went from MML/thesunfan/psychoangel691 to me and didn't explain why.
ShadoWolfe voted Hakulyte #180 - I would have liked a reason, I'm going to assume gut read based on my meta.
juckter1 voted ShadoWolfe #181 - Can you explain why you voted Shadow? I only see why you didn't vote Pazzaz and MixMasterLar.
Hakulyte voted MixMasterLar #186 - I didn't like the ShadoWolfe wagon, thesunfan wagon wasn't happening and I had no reason to kill myself. MML wagon being the only logical choice and knowing there's the chance that I didn't read him right made me vote him. I don't think voting anyone else would have got any sort of traction and that would have made my vote pointless. I still was frustrated that my initial 3 lynches candidates all got rejected. (juckter/Pazzaz/thesunfan)

I'm going to build a case for him because I'm certainly not seeing it your way. Ironically, I ended up voting him for different reasons. (PoE on EoD votes).

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Haku: Pitched the idea of speaking in puzzles but he said it was to find "other wolves." He could have said just wolves in general but that wasnt the case. Effort meta for Haku meant wolfy Haku last game i saw.

That.

[Hakulyte]

@ R.E. Aryxi

I thought you were talking about this game.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

That.

gotcha.

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Haku's Effort posts as wolf during Turbo XI:

Not sure if you are bad at roman numerals or really really wrong.

[R.E. Aryxi]

No not this game in particular. I was saying how the puzzles had the more effort put into them and the last time I saw similar effort was when you were wolf in that turbo.

[R.E. Aryxi]

Yeah those were bad roman numerals lol

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I don't know if you've giving us as much content as I would have liked, dAnce. What's your current reads list?

it's kinda embarrassing but I basically feel like all of the most active people are not-good lynches here. towniest to wolfiest:

choof < haku, AA, MML < charu, DFR, pazzaz < aryxi, storn, tforce, freezin


AA I just don't know how to read and I think his game is pretty leveled.

MML I think you've been hyper-aggro for d0 (not voting/pushing wise, more just tones/reactions) but I don't know you and I think that's prolly fairly difficult for wolves in the general population of twg players.

charu I kinda just wanna see how he plays this game rofl

DFR should be more solvable soon, not feeling much either way atm

pazzaz, almost the same as charu, his playstyle seems way different from average for this site and I just wanna see it. and he thinks I'm nice maybe he is my new masonbro

maybe I shouldve put freezin in his own tier before that last one idk, actually freezin could you like talk about where you're at?

aryxi and storn are practically the same thing and I feel a lil' worried that I'm biting on ppl who would often get wolfread as any alignment but ehhhhh they can definitely go d0

tforce I've maybe only ever seen play as wolf on forum games lol but ugh the tone so far.

[dAnceguy117]

I feel like I'm super biased in favor of active posters rn if I played the whole game like that I would flay myself

[dAnceguy117]

I get the impression that pazzaz could be continually hard to read because of a lack of interaction with other players because timezones, how do

[AragakiAyase]

t-force

aryxi did you conveniently ignore this

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

aryxi still hasn't done enough for my tastes

aryxi what do you think of me? choof? dfr? also dfr where are you

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Effort meta was wolf last time i saw:

Haku's Effort posts as wolf during Turbo XI:

btw, I've never been here, but what's so "efforty" in my puzzles or even my game?

The picture of the elephant with DFR was made in Deadchat after the previous game.
The picture of the wolf is a copy/paste from the OP with "who's that pokemon" quickly added in paint.
I've hidden a white text for DFR, that took 30 seconds.
I picked the 42 in Storn42 decided to count the trees for the laughs. I ended up at 17*42. I thought at letters to make it puzzle-ish. I laughed at how letters gave me "gad" and added a -500 for "bad" and felt satisfied with my meme.
Puzzles are not used to lead the game in a direction unlike my "read lists" from that Turbo game.

For me, they're pretty different.

[dAnceguy117]

oops I left dadcop out my list LOL classic masonbro move

I like dadcop's tone and stuff as I mentioned but I'm lookin' to see what the first or second real play from him looks like

[AragakiAyase]

freezin actually not so good now that I think about it actually

[dadcop2]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

MML I think you've been hyper-aggro for d0 (not voting/pushing wise, more just tones/reactions) but I don't know you and I think that's prolly fairly difficult for wolves in the general population of twg players.

mml being hyper aggro is the norm

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

freezin actually not so good now that I think about it actually

Low activity? check.
Hasty conclusions? check.
Sheeps on Haku? check.

Yeah, I agree.