Practice=memorize?

jorallepat · 12-14-2003, 01:35 PM

ok, when you say practice, isn’t that just memorizing?

I beat a song I had never been able to do before, am I better? or just know the song?

VxDx · 12-14-2003, 01:41 PM

no, the key in bemani games is never memorization, it's pattern recognition. Memorization is just an after effect of playing a song a whole bunch, and even then, you only really memorize the beats, and not which key/pad is actually being hit.

**Freak83** · 12-14-2003, 01:42 PM

Welcome to the valley of the dead jorallepat.

We don't really memorize arrows, ok you might have a better idea of when to press arrows in a song once you've played it many times. But if we played it with our eyes closed we would definatly still fail.

And if you have beaten a song you have never been able to beat before... yes, you are better, I guarentee it. When I was new I could never beat FF7 then I finally beat it... then again after a few tries, and then it wasn't a problem anymore, etc, for different songs too. So yes, you are indeed getting better.

jorallepat · 12-14-2003, 01:44 PM

Maybe I am just dense, but I don’t get it.

I mean some of those songs! That seams humanly impossible to look at the arrows that fast

Brainmaster07 · 12-14-2003, 01:48 PM

Nah, it's just practice. When new songs come out, say a level 8, people can FC it their first try just beause they're able to interprete the arrows. Give it a week or two then you'll be a whole lot farther then you thought was possible originally.

When I started I was like "WTF? BTC is like impossible, how could anyone pass that" and now I'm second on For FFR and can get 150+ combos on revolutionary.

eyespewgreekfire · 12-14-2003, 01:50 PM

personally, i see arrows in groups of four usually and sometimes two, three, or seven. When I see a right, then down, then up, then left arrow, i dont read each one alone. I see them together as a common pattern. If youre a really good bemani player like Reach or Volkov, you may even see larger patterns (I dont know)

jorallepat · 12-14-2003, 01:51 PM

Ok thanks, but now I have another stupid question. How do you close full screen?

**jimerax** · 12-14-2003, 01:53 PM

Alt + F4.

jorallepat · 12-14-2003, 01:54 PM

thanks, back to dancing! err... button pushing

vvolkov0073 · 01-1-2004, 09:49 AM

It is easily possible to memorize songs, I have memorized a bunch or crap on stepmania (ie, i can do it just as well blinfolder/with the mointor off, as I can reading the arrows)

max300 is a big example...stealth...

- Volkov

makaveli121212 · 01-1-2004, 10:07 AM

whats the point of that

hydrojakep · 01-1-2004, 03:02 PM

welcome jorellepat!

Yanah_God · 01-1-2004, 05:19 PM

i have yet to memorize a song

i just see the arrows and my fingers move subconcsiously

Takisho · 01-1-2004, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanah_God

i have yet to memorize a song

i just see the arrows and my fingers move subconcsiously

Good, I'm not the only one.

12-14-2003, 01:35 PM	#1
jorallepat FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 28	Practice=memorize? ok, when you say practice, isn’t that just memorizing? I beat a song I had never been able to do before, am I better? or just know the song?

12-14-2003, 01:48 PM	#5
Brainmaster07 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My house Posts: 2,891	Nah, it's just practice. When new songs come out, say a level 8, people can FC it their first try just beause they're able to interprete the arrows. Give it a week or two then you'll be a whole lot farther then you thought was possible originally. When I started I was like "WTF? BTC is like impossible, how could anyone pass that" and now I'm second on For FFR and can get 150+ combos on revolutionary. __________________

12-14-2003, 01:50 PM	#6
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	personally, i see arrows in groups of four usually and sometimes two, three, or seven. When I see a right, then down, then up, then left arrow, i dont read each one alone. I see them together as a common pattern. If youre a really good bemani player like Reach or Volkov, you may even see larger patterns (I dont know) __________________

01-1-2004, 09:49 AM	#10
vvolkov0073 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 357	It is easily possible to memorize songs, I have memorized a bunch or crap on stepmania (ie, i can do it just as well blinfolder/with the mointor off, as I can reading the arrows) max300 is a big example...stealth... - Volkov __________________

01-1-2004, 03:02 PM	#12
hydrojakep FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth. Age: 32 Posts: 2,293	welcome jorellepat! __________________

12-14-2003, 01:41 PM	#2
VxDx FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,871	no, the key in bemani games is never memorization, it's pattern recognition. Memorization is just an after effect of playing a song a whole bunch, and even then, you only really memorize the beats, and not which key/pad is actually being hit.

12-14-2003, 01:42 PM	#3
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	Welcome to the valley of the dead jorallepat. We don't really memorize arrows, ok you might have a better idea of when to press arrows in a song once you've played it many times. But if we played it with our eyes closed we would definatly still fail. And if you have beaten a song you have never been able to beat before... yes, you are better, I guarentee it. When I was new I could never beat FF7 then I finally beat it... then again after a few tries, and then it wasn't a problem anymore, etc, for different songs too. So yes, you are indeed getting better.

12-14-2003, 01:44 PM	#4
jorallepat FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 28	Maybe I am just dense, but I don’t get it. I mean some of those songs! That seams humanly impossible to look at the arrows that fast

12-14-2003, 01:51 PM	#7
jorallepat FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 28	Ok thanks, but now I have another stupid question. How do you close full screen?

12-14-2003, 01:53 PM	#8
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Alt + F4.

12-14-2003, 01:54 PM	#9
jorallepat FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 28	thanks, back to dancing! err... button pushing

01-1-2004, 05:19 PM	#13
Yanah_God Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: posting for gb sweep Posts: 1,330	i have yet to memorize a song i just see the arrows and my fingers move subconcsiously

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