Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

**Tasselfoot** · 09-3-2008, 12:58 PM

Zez Confrey composed some very interesting piano pieces in the 20s. Not rag, specifically, but close. This is the one I find most interesting, complex, and steppable...

Coaxing the Piano
http://www.perfessorbill.com/midi/coaxing.mid

Thanks to Destiny for the assistance on permission for it... I also have a .pdf file of the sheet music if anyone is interested in it for aid in stepping or for recording your own MIDI...

Beyond that, if anyone wants to step anything else from Perfessor Bill, let me know. As of now, we only have permission for the one song, and will go on a per-song basis for others.

http://www.perfessorbill.com/pbmidiall.shtml

Make sure to stick only to pre-1923 music... he won't give permission for post-1923, since it isn't his to give.

**devonin** · 09-3-2008, 01:07 PM

Sorry, I can't step anything that would be harder than a 7.

ZiggyMcSquirrel · 09-3-2008, 01:11 PM

I am going to attempt this :] Called Dibs?

**Tasselfoot** · 09-3-2008, 01:25 PM

there are no dibs... anyone can step whatever. we've had batches with 6 submissions of the same 1 song before. I know Destiny is working on this also.

**L0NEvvolf** · 09-3-2008, 01:25 PM

Working on stepping my first file at the moment and I don't really think that I would be able to step this anyways sorry Tass.

**Mr.Nothing** · 09-3-2008, 01:28 PM

:/
I dunno, I might do it as a side project.
And dev, have you slowed down the rate of a song?
It's really easy to step high BPMs then.

**dood gone krazee** · 09-3-2008, 02:37 PM

I'll probably step it. The beginning sounds really awkward BPM wise. It doesn't sound like the tempo changes too much. Easy fixes with DDREAM Studio probably.

**robertsona** · 09-3-2008, 02:42 PM

uh how do i download and/or convert it

**Tasselfoot** · 09-3-2008, 02:44 PM

right click, save target as, midi to mp3 converter

**robertsona** · 09-3-2008, 03:41 PM

trying out ddream for this

who_cares973 · 09-3-2008, 04:05 PM

i'll try stepping this after i finish la campanella

**Netjet!** · 09-3-2008, 04:13 PM

Holy cow, I would so step this, but I can't download Stepmania on here. =[ Even if I could, it would take me at least 2 months to step this to the best of my ability.

Also at second :35~1:15 do I hear some jack possibilities?

**hi19hi19** · 09-3-2008, 04:37 PM

I love the Perfessor's music.
But bah, MIDIs! He has some good mp3s on that site, why not step a REAL piano song?

Also, this would honestly be quite hell with the BPM changes. Good luck.

**Callipygian** · 09-3-2008, 04:42 PM

There's a lot of interesting early 20th century piano music. Maybe improvisations by Poulenc, jazz pieces by Schulhoff or a nocturne by Gershwin would be nice to step.

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 09-3-2008, 04:51 PM

Normally this is something that I would be all over. Unfortunately, I'm busy with the few songs that I'm still working on from before. If somehow I manage to finish all of those, and this still needs a good file, I'll probably try to make something of it.

**dore** · 09-3-2008, 04:53 PM

All you have to do is get some free midi analyzing software (even FL will work too) and use that to figure out BPMs.

**hi19hi19** · 09-3-2008, 04:55 PM

http://www.perfessorbill.com/midi/rhapsody.mid
Eubie Blake masterpiece. Perfect for stepping.

EDIT- Dore... I've tried that. I used Finale 2005 and FL and Sibaleus, it's not as easy as you'd think. In addition to the BPM changes, the notes of a live recorded session put into a MIDI hardly ever fall on the beat. So even if you have the BPM if the MIDI file itself, it hardly ever does you any good. At least, for me, it wasn't turning out right.

**Tasselfoot** · 09-3-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973

i'll try stepping this after i finish la campanella

man. i was trying to get Reach to step La Campanella 2+ years ago... back when I had asked him to do Turkish March. That and Lost Penny.

But... yea... this and really any other of Bill's MIDIs... you need a high quality stepfiler to do the chart. the BPM changes are likely quite rough.

As someone else said... test out DDReam. That's what jx used for the OMW v2 BPM changes, and that turned out real well.

behanjc · 09-3-2008, 10:48 PM

Does anyone have a very good method of analyzing all of a midi's BPM changes. So far, the best thing I've found is Sibelius. If you show hidden objects or something, it will show the BPM markings on the sheet music from the imported midi. However the presentation is hardly ideal (I.E. the BPM markings will be something like increasing from 118.94594, 129.32094, 145.235436456, but all in close proximity and overlap each other. Kind of hard to explain.)
Also, it doesn't indicate the exact second at which the BPM change takes place, rather it marks it on sheet music and often comes between 2 notes and the exact timing is indistinguishable.

If anyone could report a very good method of finding the BPM changes in a midi, I would appreciate it.

lxDestinyxl · 09-4-2008, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973

i'll try stepping this after i finish la campanella

... It better be good. It's one of my favourite pieces on piano. I can play most of the song on piano too.

Also, how are you stepping the right hand of page 4? If done properly, I'm guessing LOTS of runningman and jacks + jump jacks.
I can't wait.

09-3-2008, 12:58 PM	#1
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? Zez Confrey composed some very interesting piano pieces in the 20s. Not rag, specifically, but close. This is the one I find most interesting, complex, and steppable... Coaxing the Piano http://www.perfessorbill.com/midi/coaxing.mid Thanks to Destiny for the assistance on permission for it... I also have a .pdf file of the sheet music if anyone is interested in it for aid in stepping or for recording your own MIDI... Beyond that, if anyone wants to step anything else from Perfessor Bill, let me know. As of now, we only have permission for the one song, and will go on a per-song basis for others. http://www.perfessorbill.com/pbmidiall.shtml Make sure to stick only to pre-1923 music... he won't give permission for post-1923, since it isn't his to give. __________________ RIP

09-3-2008, 01:07 PM	#2
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? Sorry, I can't step anything that would be harder than a 7.

09-3-2008, 01:25 PM	#4
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? there are no dibs... anyone can step whatever. we've had batches with 6 submissions of the same 1 song before. I know Destiny is working on this also. __________________ RIP

09-3-2008, 01:25 PM	#5
L0NEvvolf FFR Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,068	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? Working on stepping my first file at the moment and I don't really think that I would be able to step this anyways sorry Tass.

09-3-2008, 01:28 PM	#6
Mr.Nothing R.I.P. Steve <3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa, Fl Age: 33 Posts: 1,227	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? :/ I dunno, I might do it as a side project. And dev, have you slowed down the rate of a song? It's really easy to step high BPMs then. __________________

09-3-2008, 02:42 PM	#8
robertsona missa in h-moll Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nyc Age: 28 Posts: 3,995	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? uh how do i download and/or convert it __________________

09-3-2008, 02:44 PM	#9
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? right click, save target as, midi to mp3 converter __________________ RIP

09-3-2008, 03:41 PM	#10
robertsona missa in h-moll Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nyc Age: 28 Posts: 3,995	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? trying out ddream for this __________________

09-3-2008, 04:05 PM	#11
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? i'll try stepping this after i finish la campanella __________________

09-3-2008, 04:13 PM	#12
Netjet! Sic itur ad astra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,700	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? Holy cow, I would so step this, but I can't download Stepmania on here. =[ Even if I could, it would take me at least 2 months to step this to the best of my ability. Also at second :35~1:15 do I hear some jack possibilities? __________________ RIP Steve Van Ness <3

09-3-2008, 04:37 PM	#13
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? I love the Perfessor's music. But bah, MIDIs! He has some good mp3s on that site, why not step a REAL piano song? Also, this would honestly be quite hell with the BPM changes. Good luck. __________________

09-3-2008, 04:42 PM	#14
Callipygian Senior FFR citizen Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leuven, Belgium Age: 38 Posts: 1,537	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? There's a lot of interesting early 20th century piano music. Maybe improvisations by Poulenc, jazz pieces by Schulhoff or a nocturne by Gershwin would be nice to step. __________________ Sick nature

09-3-2008, 04:53 PM	#16
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? All you have to do is get some free midi analyzing software (even FL will work too) and use that to figure out BPMs. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

09-3-2008, 04:55 PM	#17
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? http://www.perfessorbill.com/midi/rhapsody.mid Eubie Blake masterpiece. Perfect for stepping. EDIT- Dore... I've tried that. I used Finale 2005 and FL and Sibaleus, it's not as easy as you'd think. In addition to the BPM changes, the notes of a live recorded session put into a MIDI hardly ever fall on the beat. So even if you have the BPM if the MIDI file itself, it hardly ever does you any good. At least, for me, it wasn't turning out right. __________________ Last edited by hi19hi19; 09-3-2008 at 04:58 PM..

09-3-2008, 10:48 PM	#19
behanjc stargroup & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 31 Posts: 1,546	Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano? Does anyone have a very good method of analyzing all of a midi's BPM changes. So far, the best thing I've found is Sibelius. If you show hidden objects or something, it will show the BPM markings on the sheet music from the imported midi. However the presentation is hardly ideal (I.E. the BPM markings will be something like increasing from 118.94594, 129.32094, 145.235436456, but all in close proximity and overlap each other. Kind of hard to explain.) Also, it doesn't indicate the exact second at which the BPM change takes place, rather it marks it on sheet music and often comes between 2 notes and the exact timing is indistinguishable. If anyone could report a very good method of finding the BPM changes in a midi, I would appreciate it. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/BehanOfficial https://soundcloud.com/behanmusic/powerhouse-ep-preview-out-now Last edited by behanjc; 09-3-2008 at 11:26 PM..

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