TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[Celirra]

woah woah

you cant just like

say that wv

can you like

give info

I'm glad you popped in but like

like????

[Xiz]

Is there anyone here who doesn't want to kill tokzic

I really think we solve tiloco if we solve tokzic first

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

i dont understand why freezin would drive on tiloco then vote for the same person after all that

I am known for rapidly pivoting from my established positions if it's not fruitful or I see I'm on the wrong track

If you don't believe me ask someone who's played with me.

The answer definitely isn't because of some intangible advantage in a wolf/wolf pairing

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Bruh are you for real?

nah im for fake

[Xiz]

WV is town

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Xiz

WV is town

Yo mind meld on that shit. He's not lock clear but I don't think a first time player ever comes out with a thought like that. I think he gets micro'd by his partners or lurks.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Is there anyone here who doesn't want to kill tokzic

I really think we solve tiloco if we solve tokzic first

I'd be okay with that for what it would bring if nothing else.

But if I had to rate my want-to-lynch as a percentage, Tiloco is about 83% right now and Tik Tokzic is about 76%, raised mostly by what lynching Tokzik would bring for finding other wolves

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by inDheart

raeward vakobond

lmao

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Yo mind meld on that shit. He's not lock clear but I don't think a first time player ever comes out with a thought like that. I think he gets micro'd by his partners or lurks.

Assuming all first time players would play/think the same is pretty silly

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm going to try to carry roundbox's torch here

he has vocally expressed concern about tokzic, MML, tiloco, and Xiz

I will carry on your legacy senpai

pretty cool how you don't include xel in this list after voting for him at eod, you'd think you'd remember that one

[Celirra]

wow I wish people were this courteous to me on my first time playing with ffr

I just got d0 lynched I think or something, maybe it was n1 woofed

p sure WayBae is town though

[FreezinIce]

Tbh I think with todays flips and the night kills i could solve the game wolfwise. The game feels a little bit away from being busted wide open.

[Celirra]

man backpack has been lurking for a long time, I hope he gives me a really good book to read.

[MixMasterLar]

Only up through page 64. Might have to dip for like an hour or two. Will be here EoD, will be caught up before then. Posting responses/thoughts for what I saw:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Reactions:

Preliminary findings:

Manti swinging the wagon towards lightknight looks like fucking garbage. If tiloco flips red manti should die next. If you ignore this advice and i die in the night ill haunt you

I won't ignore it. Manti was absolutely staying on the fence until it was time to swing it and casually pushed towards Light with little progression.

Originally Posted by XelNya

So let's talk about just this part of your post seriously. What made you so quick to jump to the notion that there's two factions rather than stating there's a possibility of a vigi-type roll? Why do you completely just post nothing but white noise about some iso of blind and tiloco and end it with no actually worth while conclusion? Town MML would have walked out of that ready to fire shots at one of them I think. Especially when you state that you're leaning blind scummy when you walk out of that iso.

So why the fucking shit do you decide I'm a better vote over all of that work you just did?

First, I decided that it was two factions because those where completely shitty shits for a town vigi to make. I remember saying as much then. If Im wrong then I'm going to fucking roast nuts in post about it.

Second, those where the only two people I found the time to ISO. Tried to get my social obligations out of the way in the night phase.

Third, Blind at the time said that doing this phase he was going to put in work. I could have pressured voted him to make sure he still did but I still wanted t pressure you so at that time I kept my vote on you and called him out. I like to think I called him out hard and don't understand what you're talking about here.

Fourth, when Blind proved he was lazy I voted for him, and my vote is actually still on him.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Am I over-reading into this as an inconsistency?

Yeah probably

Originally Posted by XelNya

Nice attempt to shovel a discussion into an early grave btw. I'd be more ok with this if you had directed it to a better topic.

Early grave? I don't think I was eve the first person to say that it was pointless to speculate on it. It had certainly been discussed as much as speculation on night kills could be.
Go ahead Xel tell me what you think on the subject blow my fucking mind and show me what theories we missed because I somehow killed the conversation off. Elf dick.

Originally Posted by XelNya

I actually take more issue with this than I did at a glance earlier.

Notibly the raeko read, and dbp read.

Neither of which are actual reads, and are more like placing them to satisfy making this look good.

Aren't you better than this or did you aquire a bit of elf dick in the mouth? (AKA You choking there buddy pal fren?)

They are more or less meta reads, I've confessed this to Cel actually.
Do you realize how many times we've mislynced Raeko for doing exactly the type of bullshit she did?

DPB showed a little effort which for d0 was town of him It's a meta read, and it'll have to be reviewed next phase with what he accomplished this phase (Which looks to be jack shit unless he picks up steam page 65 onward) but he is a bad lynch candidate and I feel ok leaning him town.

If you actually read my post and wasnt just looking at things to bitch about you'll know this.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Lar you're next, just so you're not blindsighted when I swap to you later if Soundwave actually doesn't make legit want him gone.

Hey guys who do you think has the biggest hate boner for me this game?

I kid it's Blind

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

I'd post something useful but I don't feel like it and have business to attend to so I'll see ya in like, 12 or 18 hours or something.

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Originally Posted by Celirra

did I say light? I meant freezin

You made that mistake so many times I legit wonder about you.
Wolves tend to forget things in games since they ain't actually trying to solve anything.

Then again I once had a long post where I called Drizz DBP so I can kind of get it.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

My contributions are almost always all connections. I'm bad at solving this game.

Best Blind post all game

Originally Posted by tiloco217

About Xel: I think that if anyone but Xel had made his big post I would have liked it. The thought process was clearly laid out and most things he said felt pretty natural. That said I can't shake the feeling that he was basically required to do an effort post like that. It could be confirmation bias but I'm not pulling him out of scumlean on that post alone.

So you like his process
Like his tone
like his effort
But it's Xel so it's no good.

What the fuck man? Do you just think this is out of character for him? He wall posts in a shitton of games.

I wouldn't mind the scumlean if it was because of content but it looks like you are literally saying "lol but XelNya" like come the fuck on.

Originally Posted by tiloco217

@MML: Every time you say Triloco I die a little inside

Sorry my bad.

Originally Posted by Tokzic

Wasn't a read I posted about at the time, just one I observed.

OK NO
You do NOT get to say that you didn't 180 on a read for no reason and cite a timeframe when you where considering your current read WHEN YOU DIDNT FUCKING POST IT IN THE THREAD

You straight up flipped on your read with no real progression and I fucking caught you at you it. That was the fucking best you could do?

Tokzic

At least Blind has been consistent in his ignorance you can't even manage to do that for me.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm not gonna suck the man's dick (yet) but I think sunfan is right that we as a community hardly leverage the reads of the dead

This is probably true.

Hoping you offered up more then Follow the Vote for the phase, man.

Originally Posted by Xiz

When MML wolf fights he usually does it in a way where he just starts throwing out complete bullshit, and not actually making relevant posts that continue the game. Blind posts simply didn't read wolfy, especially how blind kept trying to show his point and willing to adapt instead of proving how right he thinks he is

I have never seen the word adapt misused so hard

Originally Posted by tiloco217

@Xel: I didn't really want to give that read because I knew it wouldn't help things but I couldn't just ignore it. I've been asking you to effort post and then you did and I still didn't like it even though I liked what you said. I definitely appreciate you doing more but my gut is just telling me mafia. I'm going to give it a little more time, let you get a few more good posts in, and then try to re-evaluate based on content alone. Keep content coming.

I dont even like Xel but this fucking reasoning is garbage.

[MixMasterLar]

Still not caught up, will do it when I return. Vote stays on Tokzic for reasons I already said. If one of you unreading ass-shits asks me why I'm scum reading Tokzic I will fill the next 20 pages with me quoting myself about it.

Will be back well ahead of EoD

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Assuming all first time players would play/think the same is pretty silly

It's also a function of playing with a team of wolves. The wincon is always the same, behavior avoided is usually the same, so if not perfectly predict it, you can at least have an idea of expected behavior

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Looks trashy for hard defending tilco, yet not voting the wagon that would save him (light). A disconnect between words and actions.

LAUGH

MY FUCKING

ASS OUT

xD

[FreezinIce]

Since your most likely not going to be lynched WV I'd appreciate it if you would contribute to eod in a meaningful way.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

LAUGH

MY FUCKING

ASS OUT

xD

What's so funny noggers

[Tokzic]

I spent fucking forever talking about how I think the wolves are weighted in the active pool, and how killing inactives is bad because I thought there was a lot of blue in it, and you try to tell me THERE IS A DISCONNECT IN MY WORDS AND ACTIONS because I DID NOT WANT TO LYNCH LIGHTKNIGHT?

If you want to know what a disconnect between words and actions looks like, look at your self-contradictions yesterday.