A Bit of Token Talk

Xx{Midnight}xX · 11-4-2012, 02:53 AM

So, this thread is coming about because of the most recent tendency of the people to make new skill tokens as "AntiPA" tokens.

This bothers me. Immensely. Mostly because of a personal preference.

Anyways, here is what I am purposing.

We need to fix how we are classifying tokens. We have everything all over the place and it's really rather annoying.

Let us begin with "General" Tokens.

This is how they appear as of right now

Here is what I'd like to see. We need to separate these into multiple sections.

The sections are as follows with their respective token lists in spoilers:

Regular tokens:

And now we move on, we move to the section that I feel will require he most discussion. I have a very clear opinion of the differences between "Skill" tokens and "AntiPA" tokens. Even to the degree where I think calling it "AntiSkill" is wrong. But I am going to not bother you with this.

Simply put, Skill Tokens need a separation between two main categories. Being their terminology or name is up for discussion, I'm going to use the terms I prefer.

Skill Tokens as they are now in listing.

As I'd separate them:

1. Skill Tokens

Why are some of these here and not in the list below?
Any token in this list can be unlocked with a AAA if Memory serves. If it requires a specific count, it is treated as AntiPA.

2. AntiPA Tokens

Some of these encourage good PA?
No. All of these tokens specifically require a score that cannot be achieved through a AAA. Where as the above list can have a AAA to unlock.

Now to the HUGE thing you've been wondering since you opened the thread...

Why do we care?

I don't know about you, but I am personally really annoyed by the idea that things can be sorted properly, but aren't. This system stops players from being confused. Yes, all of these would require their own page, and a small FAQ note at the top explaining it. I feel this would be very helpful to newer players migrating to the site.

Also! While we are on topic of tokens.

We should modify this requirement:

Token Whore
Unlock ST#1-99, then check levelrank.php to unlock Token Whore.
145 people have unlocked skill token 100

Modify it to check for 100 tokens. ANY token should count if possible.

Hopefully this is discussed and has a good course of action taken.

11-4-2012, 02:53 AM	#1
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 8,548	A Bit of Token Talk So, this thread is coming about because of the most recent tendency of the people to make new skill tokens as "AntiPA" tokens. This bothers me. Immensely. Mostly because of a personal preference. Anyways, here is what I am purposing. We need to fix how we are classifying tokens. We have everything all over the place and it's really rather annoying. Let us begin with "General" Tokens. This is how they appear as of right now Here is what I'd like to see. We need to separate these into multiple sections. The sections are as follows with their respective token lists in spoilers: Regular tokens: 1. Forum Tokens 1. Hardcore of the North 2. Xuxa 3. Takecore Of Yourself 4. Tsugaru 180 New Version 5. {Satori} 6. Psychosis 7. Sifon 8. Anubis 9. Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star v2 10. Silence v2 11. Attack of One Minute 12. Roller Coaster Ride 13. Naisyaodakunyan 14. CIA Rave v2 15. Fall 16. Samurai Road 17. Forza Azzuri 19. Ride Out 20. Bike Thief (Tubeway Remix) 21. Kagami 22. Sunny Starry Carnival 23. Kakke Ecko 24. Strawberry 25. Gaussian Blur 26. Ice Candy Pop 27. Field of Snow [Standard] 28. Rocking Ass 29. Sicilian Sun Why are these tokens here? These are the tokens you find using the hints given to you via the front page posts. You must find* these.* 2. Event Tokens 18. Vertex BETA vrofl 39. FREEDOM DiVE 41. Will you Marry Me? (I feel as if this should not be a token but if it stays, hide it from the public. This will immensely confuse new players.) 42. The Wisest Were Wrong Why are these here? These are songs you earn via events. Usually contests and official tourneys. Or in short terms, these are not obtained in normal means. 3. Task Tokens (Feel free to discuss what the term for this should be.) 30. Orchestral Angels 31. Happy Rainbow 32. Quickdraw 33. Slow Motion (Wipeout Pure Xtra) 34. Here We Go 35. PianoCore 36. Dendrite v2 37. Tell v3 (Extended Mix) 38. Coactive [Over My Shoulder Mix] 40. You Gotta B-E-E-R! 41. Token Whore Why are these here? These are the tokens that aren't skill tokens, nor event tokens, and cannot be found by using the forum. These tokens are found by doing a required task. They're like skill tokens but aren't quite tokens due to their unlock being unique. You need to post in threads for some of these, or need to unlock them via level rank status. And now we move on, we move to the section that I feel will require he most discussion. I have a very clear opinion of the differences between "Skill" tokens and "AntiPA" tokens. Even to the degree where I think calling it "AntiSkill" is wrong. But I am going to not bother you with this. Simply put, Skill Tokens need a separation between two main categories. Being their terminology or name is up for discussion, I'm going to use the terms I prefer. Skill Tokens as they are now in listing. As I'd separate them: 1. Skill Tokens 1. Spontaneous Hydroxide v2 2. Dazzling Destiny 3. Hellbeat V2 4. Idol (Danpa with Posing Guys ver) 5. First Try 5. UNknown Girl 6. Gaussian Blur 2 7. BB Revenge 8. V1 9. Calm (Short 'n' Slow Mix) 10. Tribal Style 11. Battle Ax 12. So Long To The Circus 13. Lift Up 14. R3 (Omega Mix) 15. Syage 16. Judgement Days 17. All of the World 18. {Midnight} 19. EternuS 20. The Pylons Are TRAP BALLS 21. Heavy Danger 22. What-ever 23. {Satori} v2 24. lolharp5000 25. Dawn 26. Dance To Moroder 27. CAULI FLOWER 28. Otaku Speedvibe [Heavy] 29. Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] 30. Three Ring Nightfall 31. Clash at the Mountains 32. Disconnected 33. Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl v2 34. ViennaCore 34. Love Cheat! 35. PLANETZ 36. Binary Rendezvous 37. Abyss (Downbeat Mix) 38. Mou Uta Shika Kikoenai 39. Incognito v2 40. Chinaman 41. Sail AwaY 42. Stunt Flying (Sanxion7 Mix) 43. Prelude to Rites 44. Cold Breath 45. Disconnected -mobius- 46. Made In Innocent 47. Kyuin 48. Distant Land 49. Hatten Carnival! v2 50. Melonmans OP 51. {Colossus} 52. MaxX AttaxX 53. The Five 54. Eien Meikyu 55. Geno's Forest F-Zero 56. Tell 57. Pokemon DnB 58. 5.1.1. (AG Supercool Mix) 59. I'm Raving (B0UNC3 Mix) 60. Do Not Sex To This 61. Summer Starry Sky 62. Technostorm Hurricane 63. Like Glass 64. Crying Soul 65. One More Night (SynthWulf Remix) 66. Ride of the Black Rider 67. Sine Reality II 68. Strategem 69. We Interrupt This Program (AG Flash Floor Mix) 70. RainDrops v2 71. Electro Rush x8 v2 72. Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia Mov.3 73. Gacha Gacha Hertz Figu atto Radio 74. Tell v2 75. Disconnected Hardkore 76. Minute Waltz v2 77. Big Blue v2 78. St. Scarhand 79. Party 4u -holy nite mix- 80. JULIAN 81. Ding Dong Song [Standard] 82. Elektrik Shiivers 83. A Correspondances Illumitees 84. Rudi the Techno Pioneer 84. Revolutionary Etude v2 85. The Bird's Concrete Nosedive 86. Shadows Why are some of these here and not in the list below? Any token in this list can be unlocked with a AAA if Memory serves. If it requires a specific count, it is treated as AntiPA. 2. AntiPA Tokens 1. Spinning With You 2. Manhattan Sapphire 3. Destiny v2 4. Emotions V2 5. Zephon 6. Ninjitsu 7. P8107 8. Exotica 9. Party 4u -holy nite mix- v3 10. Starman 11. Nippon Zenkoku GABA Ondo 12. Frozen Bond 13. Color of Giggles 14. Angel Stays On This Ground 15. ~Absolute Zero~ 16. {Sunlight} 17. LunaMarionette 18. Nanairopanda v2 19. OMGWTFT0k3N 20. BEER MY FRIEND 21. BEER 22. Marisa Stole the Precious Thing 23. Metro 24. Video Out B 25. Piano Etude (Demon Fire) [Oni] 26. Crowdpleaser v2 27. 404th of July Some of these encourage good PA? No. All of these tokens specifically require a score that cannot be achieved through a AAA. Where as the above list can have a AAA to unlock. Now to the HUGE thing you've been wondering since you opened the thread... Why do we care? I don't know about you, but I am personally really annoyed by the idea that things can be sorted properly, but aren't. This system stops players from being confused. Yes, all of these would require their own page, and a small FAQ note at the top explaining it. I feel this would be very helpful to newer players migrating to the site. Also! While we are on topic of tokens. We should modify this requirement: Token Whore Unlock ST#1-99, then check levelrank.php to unlock Token Whore. 145 people have unlocked skill token 100 Modify it to check for 100 tokens. ANY token should count if possible. Hopefully this is discussed and has a good course of action taken.

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