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11-9-2018, 07:10 PM | #1 |
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An Open Letter Re: Mods
Can we stop deleting or (especially)editing other people's posts, unless there's illegal/banned content (like Xiz posting horse cocks)? I think everyone here's old enough to be able to see negativity or rudeness or whatever words rudeboi1697 can throw at my mother, and if it really is crossing the line just temp ban them without deleting the post... I think deleting posts just makes things awkward and builds tension.
Locking threads is probably fine as a concept but I'm not sure it's been needed as much as it has been, but that's just me. Maybe it's just me that's noticed some animosity going around here, and maybe I'm tunnel visioned on this because the concept of it bugs me, but I think there should be some kind of mutual communication at least, between mods and non-mods here, and it might help resolve *some* things, or at least cover some ground towards reaching better civility here.
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11-9-2018, 07:13 PM | #2 |
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Re: An Open Letter Re: Mods
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11-12-2018, 02:54 PM | #3 |
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11-9-2018, 07:27 PM | #4 |
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Re: An Open Letter Re: Mods
There are rules. The mutual communication is "Here are the rules for you to follow" and you deciding "I will follow them" or "I will not follow them"
The only lack of civility is the people acting uncivil, and then if that is in violation of the rules, being infracted in accordance with the rules. |
11-9-2018, 07:32 PM | #5 | |
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I don't think this needs to be a red vs blue scenario though like it's made out to be with posts like this. No kidding it's people acting uncivil that causes a lack of civility, but blankly censoring it instead of actually dealing with it just fosters negativity. I didn't argue that people are being rude. I didn't argue that people should or shouldn't be banned (I'm not a mod for a reason). I argued against deleting/editing. That said, if you and the team want ffr to be more dictatorial instead of... well, a community, then I guess my feedback doesnt have much place.
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11-9-2018, 10:19 PM | #6 | |
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because realistically those same conversations just occur behind the scenes every time an actual ban is considered every mod's got an angle |
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11-9-2018, 07:45 PM | #7 | |
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maybe getting some public input on them before changing them ought to be a must eh? fucking hell |
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11-9-2018, 07:28 PM | #8 |
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I too would like to see the juicy gossip and deleting posts before I get to read them just confuses me
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11-9-2018, 07:34 PM | #9 |
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yeah, my post where I said
I Can't Believe This Thread Hasn't Been Locked Yet! got deleted for some reason wack
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11-9-2018, 07:36 PM | #10 |
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There was a time where posting any variant of "in before lock" or "this should be locked" or "this will be locked" was a day ban, so I get where you're coming from thinking that -now- we are being more heavy-handed.
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11-9-2018, 07:38 PM | #11 |
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but the thread should have been locked basically almost immediately
mod oversight instead it was allowed to go on to the point where people are spamming and namecalling and generally getting frustrated maybe it counts as minimodding idk
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11-9-2018, 07:45 PM | #12 |
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I too am not a big fan of deleting posts due to derailing or whatever the heck.
Like Travis, I don't even know why he was banned, lol. There are other instances where I was like "why was this guy banned" but ultimately decided to stay silent due to how, err... I guess I was treading along some of the rules? I assume anyways... Then again, I thought that thread was okay and love to post on a little slice of the Internet called GameFAQs (specifically SmashFAQs) where shitposting and the like is the norm and mods act only when shady shit is going on (porn, threats, name calling, ect). |
11-9-2018, 07:47 PM | #13 | |
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maybe we ought to use that hmmmmm |
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11-9-2018, 07:45 PM | #14 |
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side note
don't let them actually add them, they're fucking wrong and stupid |
11-9-2018, 07:48 PM | #15 |
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hey wait I think I know how to mod better than some of these people
I officially announce my bid to run for mod 2019 we'll make ffr great again |
11-9-2018, 07:51 PM | #16 |
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Re: An Open Letter Re: Mods
What will your first action be, Mr. Xel?
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11-9-2018, 09:04 PM | #17 | |
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I think the current mod team, for the most part, is fine. I might not like their style of moderation, but only one mod in particular has done something I feel is worthy of being made fun of, and then just insulted to hell when the joke is missed, or my point is ignored in favor of pushing their own view point. Especially when it's not exactly the first time it's happened. I think deleting posts is fine when it serves a purpose. Banning people when they break what's written in the rules thread, sure. Using the infraction system correctly? I'm for. I still have permanent points I don't deserve according to the old, and new rule set. It's got it's kinks, and tbh most of them are likely worked out with rotating new people in. You already know what it would be. I'd take the gbin and make it great again. Most of the other mods got the rest of the site in a fairly good place. Like Rapta over MP? He sent me a message last time I played FFR because I was in the MP room. This man knows what's up. OWA and a few others hit this spot pretty nicely as well. |
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11-9-2018, 09:12 PM | #18 | |
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but thats also neither here nor there (its also tgb specific isn't it, which has always been a more subjective and disconnected ruleset to an extent)
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that rules thread is BAD edit: posted to defend xel thinking rules is bad cause it is gonna keep tryna hammer that home
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11-9-2018, 09:39 PM | #20 | |
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I take issue with people who are easily offended, or bothered by things. Partially because I don't get it. Partially because of that, I don't care who I offend. My view of the world and most of the people in it is largely to blame. I know that. But the reason I'm so in arms about it is that, by letting it into the section of the site, literally meant to have a more loose rule-set, what will make it's way to the main section eventually? Like seriously. My original posts on this, was a complete hyperbolic parody of the rules, mocking them into oblivion and commenting on them, and intentionally using words and phrases to make my point. But instead of doing things such as adding words to the filter, or really even trying to discuss it (yeah surprise that was an option) I just got deleted. I wanted to talk about it, I would argue rather I may have chose the wrong method. But, that's not really productive. It's not the correct course of action, because if I had actually broken the rules, I'm well past the point where I deserve any warnings. I know I broke no actual rules with those posts. The PM I sent to her afterwards in frustration? Which I actually got banned for? 100% broke at least a few site rules. It was nasty. I can still post in the gbin even. But why the hell would I want to post in the place that's supposed to be for people who post like I do, when the rules there are more rigid and strict. It makes no sense. If you're gonna keep Raeko as a mod, fine. But over the gbin? Likely the worst assignment here. And making me a mod? Worst fucking idea ever. Don't ever do that. I'm kidding. |
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