TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

theres no angle that benefits me when i do this.

except as a statement of a fact that you were wrong in your assertation that haku was objectively the best lynch.

i feel like just leaving my vote on you all day for completely slipping around and twisting everything i have to say

I'm not twisting anything though.

Unless you want to take back that you're objectively the best vote now?

[Charu]

Hee hee hee

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by roundbox

8. litodude

posts regarding setup should be considered null

i disagree: theorycrafting on games of which there's an ability of maximizing advantages based on interpretations of game mechanics from the perspective of a wolf or human is the only reason why i play anymore (aka the fun part)

in this game, the strat is figuring out what are the weakest possible combinations that wolves could pick, and if i correctly deduced that, we would have an advatange. unfortunately i was wrong and was operating with incomplete information (IC can be flipped whenever) so the possibility of 'cop+jailer+tracker' that I had theorycrafted was blown out of the window and I settled for my next theory: now that the IC is a possibility, who knew the mechanics of the IC existed? those players would be wolves, or IC, or previous players that knew the set up of IC. i only played one game where IC existed (last month's zoom), and made the same assumption that host would reveal that in the beginning of the game and didn't see that. thus my reasoning the freezin is PR. while i know blue hunting is a bad strategy overall, i reasoned that even outing this information would make it more beneficial for the group, as inno+cop+jailer/tracker would be enough to possibly jail a kill or track it, leaving us with a statistical advantage sooner, rather than later.

[FreezinIce]

i wanted to yolo this game but i ended up caring

drat

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

nah your just giving off the vibe of someone whos extremely opportunistic

That right?

Well then golly, guess I was opportunistic when that Haku debacle was happening too, huh?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Charu

Please do!

I'll leave this one because it has a special place in my heart. #721

I think you got defensive quick with my bussing thing as well, but there's probably more.

I don't think I will find anything big that will incriminate you tho.

[roundbox]

9. FreezinIce


man I'm slowing down
fuck

ok
here goes

FUCKING 192 POSTS

most of these are shitposts
help me

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

errr for me this is common sense, so why say you have a wolf read this early then refuse to explain it.

when you do that then say lol just kidding haku bad its kind of annoying

I mean this is a good poke at haku that doesn't feel poopy

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

no let chaos reign

this is dumb
like
really dumb
throwing lynch accountability out the window a few hours into the phase for "LOL RANDOM"
nah
just NAH

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

just pretty much the calling card of a different way of playing twg

probably worse but thats besides the point

but it is worse on a strategic standpoint

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

bruh if i cared about getting on towns bad side i wouldnt have done all that blatantly chaotic stuff

my response to yoshl was pretty much "oh yeah im town i should be trying to help town not do selfish bullshit"

but whatever floats your boat

I see another player going in line with the title of this game

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I gotta stop and take a break
I've been twged out for a few hours
there's a (small chance) I won't be here later tonight but I'll return to this tomorrow

so many fuckin POSTS holy sHIT

[Charu]

I'm quick to defend my bussing because thesunfan thinks he can read me well when it comes to bussing so he sometimes incorrectly reads me due to that.

Pretty much it.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Litodude

i disagree: theorycrafting on games of which there's an ability of maximizing advantages based on interpretations of game mechanics from the perspective of a wolf or human is the only reason why i play anymore (aka the fun part)

in this game, the strat is figuring out what are the weakest possible combinations that wolves could pick, and if i correctly deduced that, we would have an advatange. unfortunately i was wrong and was operating with incomplete information (IC can be flipped whenever) so the possibility of 'cop+jailer+tracker' that I had theorycrafted was blown out of the window and I settled for my next theory: now that the IC is a possibility, who knew the mechanics of the IC existed? those players would be wolves, or IC, or previous players that knew the set up of IC. i only played one game where IC existed (last month's zoom), and made the same assumption that host would reveal that in the beginning of the game and didn't see that. thus my reasoning the freezin is PR. while i know blue hunting is a bad strategy overall, i reasoned that even outing this information would make it more beneficial for the group, as inno+cop+jailer/tracker would be enough to possibly jail a kill or track it, leaving us with a statistical advantage sooner, rather than later.

I think you misunderstood

null in regards to "does this tell me the alignment of a player?"
not null as "this posts should be ignored because they're worthless because conjecture"


...if I'm understanding your POV

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Litodude

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=529

lying, deceitful

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=532
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=533

yes


whenever i've read discussion between you and $player it's always been neutral and i don't trust that

yeah I can't really help myself once I get going what can I say
inside jokes are going to stay, friend.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm not twisting anything though.

Unless you want to take back that you're objectively the best vote now?

im going to (stupidly) try to clarify this one more time on the offchance you actually havnt grasped what i was trying to say

ob·jec·tive·ly
in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.

if you took a random stranger who knew nothing about any of us, and asked him to pick someone whos the most suspicious and worth a vote at the moment i made that post, based on the things ive done and posted i believed that would be me and not haku.

HAVING SAID THAT

twg is all about reads, tone, gut, and interactions

SO

when you said haku was objectively the best lynch (and at that point i wasnt even on your radar) i took offense to that because strictly speaking that wasnt true. nothing haku has done could be objectively called anti town. in fact from your use of the word im not even sure you knew what objectively means.

ive done actions that could be called OBJECTIVELY antitown. as in, due to the mechanics of the game they are not in the towns best interest, barring all emotional reads.
AKA i was saying you were wrong. not that it really ended up mattering in the long run because the minute i poked you in the eye you jumped on me.

So i guess this is all moot at this point but because you keep bringing it up i felt the need to explain it one last time

now to see if it does any good

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm quick to defend my bussing because thesunfan thinks he can read me well when it comes to bussing so he sometimes incorrectly reads me due to that.

Pretty much it.

I don't THINK I can read you well, friend

[Litodude]

no, the former

i literally was like 'oh what would wolves pick this would be fun to think about' when i ninja signed up for this game with AA

imo that warrants discussion and was largely ignored and instead it was 300 posts about absolute garbage tbqh

any other vanilla games are pretty boring; i think 'reads' are best left to irl/webcam stuff because there's intonations, body language, and vernacular you could legitimately use to make 'reads'

but this is fucking text the only thing you're 'reading' are 26 letter permutations

[Litodude]

@roundbox

[FreezinIce]

actually i stand corrected because holy shit i forgot HE CLAIMED VT.

although my point still stands and i find you connecting his emotional responses to your claims of objectivity bad

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

im going to (stupidly) try to clarify this one more time on the offchance you actually havnt grasped what i was trying to say

ob·jec·tive·ly
in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.

if you took a random stranger who knew nothing about any of us, and asked him to pick someone whos the most suspicious and worth a vote at the moment i made that post, based on the things ive done and posted i believed that would be me and not haku.

HAVING SAID THAT

twg is all about reads, tone, gut, and interactions

SO

when you said haku was objectively the best lynch (and at that point i wasnt even on your radar) i took offense to that because strictly speaking that wasnt true. nothing haku has done could be objectively called anti town. in fact from your use of the word im not even sure you knew what objectively means.

ive done actions that could be called OBJECTIVELY antitown. as in, due to the mechanics of the game they are not in the towns best interest, barring all emotional reads.
AKA i was saying you were wrong. not that it really ended up mattering in the long run because the minute i poked you in the eye you jumped on me.

So i guess this is all moot at this point but because you keep bringing it up i felt the need to explain it one last time

now to see if it does any good

My answer to this will just be in a circle, so I'll go on ahead and use a quote to answer back.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

But on the real, in your opinion charu why is haku objectively the best when his entire case is based off a subjective interpretation of an emotional series of posts. There's nothing clear cut about that. It's just as muddy as the rest of d0 stuff

Originally Posted by Charu

Me, You, thesunfan, mellon, Gradiant, inDheart, and YoshL have said (and not said [that's actually noteworthy in itself]) about that entire thing.

Haku flip would give players a better understanding probably to thesunfan, you, myself, mellon, and inDheart.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

My answer to this will just be in a circle, so I'll go on ahead and use a quote to answer back.

i realize this but information lynches arnt objective either. In fact theres nothing from your original post that even suggests thats what you were after.

[FreezinIce]

i realize im arguing semantics in a tunnel with a fucking bird but iono maybe i just love punishing myself

[Litodude]

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.

And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also DO HO HOS.

[FreezinIce]

the TOWN thing to do would be to fuck off of this and look at other players

the TOWN thing to do would be to stop being so narrow focused and arguing constantly about inane bullshit and getting tripped up by every snarky remark anyone makes

but hey wouldnt be the first time i didnt act town today :^)