Paranormal Activity

[RandomPscho]

Sorry, by open I meant open to the belief of ghosts, not open mined. I should have rephrased as to wanting to believe in ghosts, though.

[devonin]

Well, if you -want- to believe something (It's a ghost) (it's a trick of the light) then that is almost certainly what you'll believe. The human mind is fun like that, you have to make an effort to run around opening doors and windows, or they all just shut on you.

[BEN.(SPEIRS) 7.5]

It's not about the sightings, but I WANT to believe in it, because I would like to think when we die our souls will live on, otherwise it would just make me miserable to say when you die, that's it, gone, kaput, worm food.

[devonin]

Woudln't it be generally better to want to think your soul goes on somewhere that -isn't- tromping around hallways in the dark scaring people? *grin*

[BEN.(SPEIRS) 7.5]

Originally Posted by devonin

Woudln't it be generally better to want to think your soul goes on somewhere that -isn't- tromping around hallways in the dark scaring people? *grin*

I dunno, sounds like fun

[Manmademusic]

If there is an afterlife, then it would make sense for there to be a heaven, or something like it. If everyone who has died just stayed on Earth, there would be a heckuva lot more "Ghost Sightings" as it were.

[VampyressKyttie]

I know that not everything I have seen is a ghost or what not. Those times when I freaked myself out enough and made myself see something or when I dream about it are very different from actual experiences. My religion has nothing to do with the fact that I have seen ghosts. I started seeing things when I was young but that doesn't matter I still see them. Things happened to my whole family in our last house but I was the only one that actually saw it. No matter how many times I try to tell myself its not real or just a trick I know it's not. I always try to say ok did I make myself see it, was it a shadow but sometimes you just can't explain it. When we lived in our old house for a few years it got so bad that I felt like I was going crazy so trust me I don't want to believe but when you have had a real expierence you will know it. Also if you are so close minded that you refuse to believe that they might exist then even if you see one you will explain it away to keep yourself from realizing you were wrong for so long.

[Darkjakk]

Im not going to say I believe in ghosts, because I don't, but what I do believe in is residual(sp?) energy. Think of it as a broken record. What happens is a person leaves behind there residual energy most of the time perfoming a simple task, or saying something. Long after the person dies the residual energy would than "play" whatever was happening when it was imprinted on that area. Eventually it would fade away. Theres been plenty of cases to support it too.

So what im getting at is, if ghosts do exist, most of the time its probably something like residual energy, because I refuse to believe that a ghost or any kind of apparition has any will of its own, and can act of its accord.

[Manmademusic]

Then how do you think a person's "Residual energy" can say or do anything at all?

[Darkjakk]

Did you even read what I said? Its like a broken record, it repeats whatever the person might have been doing or saying at that time.

[GuidoHunter]

Hahahahaha, I'd like to see this "evidence" for "residual energy".

Physically, that's a ridiculous explanation.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[devonin]

My theory involving parallel universes has even -less- evidence and still seems to me to be more logical than a replay of previous events.

[Manmademusic]

Indeed. It was a good theory, but there's even less evidence for that then there is for the whole "Paranormal" thing.

[devonin]

"The Paranormal Thing" isn't a theory, a Paranormal occurance is simply any occurance that defies logical scientific explanation. The real objection to paranormal phenomena is to say "There's no such thing, because -everything- has a reasonable scientific exlanation if we look hard enough"

[VampyressKyttie]

There is a lot of evidence that supports residual energy.

[devonin]

Can you uh....show us some?

[GuidoHunter]

Originally Posted by VampyressKyttie

There is a lot of evidence that supports residual energy.

I think you're lying, and I cite the well-established known types of energy and the lack of a scientific uproar at the discovery of a new form to contest your phsyically laughable claims about something I (who studies energy for his profession) have never heard of.

Refute me, please.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[OmegaVanity]

This doesn't seem promising, but it's better than no explination at all:

A residual haunting is a playback of a past event. The apparitions involved are not spirits, they are "recordings" of the event. I believe that this will be the first type of haunting that main stream researchers will recognize and study. There are numerous theories on how these residual hauntings come to be. The main one will be discussed here.

Video and audio tapes capture sounds and images on a film of special material that has been oxidized or rusted. Certain building materials, such as slate used in older castles and stone structures and iron nails used in many older buildings, have properties similar to that of the tapes. When a traumatic event occurs or a time of heightened emotions, these materials record the event for future playback. Everything is made up of energy and energy cannot be destroyed. The materials store the energy created by these traumatic events and plays them back at a later time. We are not sure what causes the playback of the events, that still remains a mystery. Is it the right weather conditions, the witness's energy or sensitivity or some type of energy release?

Residual energy imprint hauntings are often called 'residual energy hauntings' or 'imprints'--which are the products of an emotional incident, often a violent event.

Just like an iron remains hot long after it's turned off, strong energy seems to be stored in physical surroundings. When someone witnesses this kind of haunting and is startled or frightened by it, that energy may refuel the setting so that the manifestations and/or impressions continue.

This may also account for the phenomena of haunted objects.

[devonin]

It's a useful enough description of what it purports to -be- but there's nothing in there that passes for evidence.

[GuidoHunter]

So, they claim that there's this strange form of energy that's undetectable by all of our means, but is intelligent enough to organize itself into some form by some function that even believers of this energy can't even begin to explain?

What you're describing is not energy; it's magic.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com