TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

This is what I don't like about your "thunderdome". I've never seen you this fixated on anyone, even before I went donezo last night.

Like, I made some really good points at the start of this phase. Your response was to be 100% sure that me scumreading you meant I was scum
???

And then later it turned out you hadn't even read all those posts
???

"shado is town then town just loses" just means you're so focused on me you're willing to let town lose because you won't consider alternatives.

Why so inflexible? Why so fixated? Find someone else this phase.

nope

your points were ok, but as sunfan pointed out, why only push me and not the people who started the wagon initially, roundbox/sunfan? if you thought dbp was that strongly town surely there'd be some suspicion there as well? did you ever get to go verify that I pushed witch hard yesterday? because I haven't seen that either

you haven't seen me this fixated because you haven't played enough with me, let me point you to two examples of this:

lynched red blaster d2, tunneled him to china: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=143227

pushed blind incredibly hard, I died in the night but he got lynched:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=144442

[AragakiAyase]

here's why I'll never not lynch you today: because I already gave you a day pass and that was a mistake

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I can't tell if Xel/Jade are being genuine or trying to hop on an easy mislynch.
AA, why don't you start exploring other worlds by analyzing that?
Don't be so fixated. Find someone else. C'monn

I can't tell either

why don't you analyze it?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

here's why I'll never not lynch you today: because I already gave you a day pass and that was a mistake

I wasn't getting lynched yesterday. You didn't give me shit, and I didn't ask for that.
Today, on the other hand, I'm telling you to find someone else if you're town.

I'm confused why you're so unwilling. The simplest explanation is that you've already smelled blood and don't want to build another mislynch from scratch.
But go do that. Seriously, you have incentive to do so as town or wolf.
If town, you don't want to lynch me because a vigi shot on you puts town in lylo tomorrow
If wolf, you don't want to lynch me because mislynching me guarantees your demise when the vigi shoots you after seeing that all the shit youve spouted was incredibly wrong, and that you wouldn't have it any other way.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I can't tell either

why don't you analyze it?

.. You know what, sure.
But you do it too (you can wait until I post mine to post yours or w/e)
But yeah
Find someone else. Follow other leads.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I wasn't getting lynched yesterday. You didn't give me shit, and I didn't ask for that.
Today, on the other hand, I'm telling you to find someone else if you're town.

I'm confused why you're so unwilling. The simplest explanation is that you've already smelled blood and don't want to build another mislynch from scratch.
But go do that. Seriously, you have incentive to do so as town or wolf.
If town, you don't want to lynch me because a vigi shot on you puts town in lylo tomorrow
If wolf, you don't want to lynch me because mislynching me guarantees your demise when the vigi shoots you after seeing that all the shit youve spouted was incredibly wrong, and that you wouldn't have it any other way.

you definitely could have been lynched yesterday

me and charu both gave you day passes

haku was suspicious of you

If I had campaigned harder I'm sure I could have gotten you lynched because your interactions and progression with mellon were abysmal

I have ideas for other wolves but I'm not moving from you because you are far and away the most likely hit

I'm not discussing this any more

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I wasn't getting lynched yesterday. You didn't give me shit, and I didn't ask for that.
Today, on the other hand, I'm telling you to find someone else if you're town.

I'm confused why you're so unwilling. The simplest explanation is that you've already smelled blood and don't want to build another mislynch from scratch.
But go do that. Seriously, you have incentive to do so as town or wolf.
If town, you don't want to lynch me because a vigi shot on you puts town in lylo tomorrow
If wolf, you don't want to lynch me because mislynching me guarantees your demise when the vigi shoots you after seeing that all the shit youve spouted was incredibly wrong, and that you wouldn't have it any other way.

And yes, I'm formally asking the vigi to shoot AA if he decides to be so mentally inflexible as to not want to bother finding a different target.
I mean, he said "if shado is town then town just loses because I have no idea who the wolves are then, it really could be just anyone" He hasn't even entertained other possibilities. He's solely fixated on one mislynch.
So if he lynches me, shoot him.
I could be wrong, but it'll be as a result of him not considering any alternatives.

I mean, I'm willing to get shot if we hit red today, I don't see why you don't take that. It ensures town's survival despite my death. At least that way I don't harm the game too much

[ShadoWolfe]

For everyone who has me as their top scum, what are your second and third strongest scumreads at this point?

Where did Witch go?

[Witch of Certainty]

This is silly.
I'm going to pull out the "self-resolving" card; leave Shado for the wolves to decide, if he's not one, let them have to choose whether to kill him or not. Find someone else to call scum, I'm sure there's at least one in the list I gave. Let's consolidate.

[AragakiAyase]

no because that entire argument falls apart if he's the roleblocker

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Where did Witch go?

currently without a laptop and really hate phone posting lol

[AragakiAyase]

witch pretend that me and shado are exactly W/T

who's the wolf?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I think if shado is the roleblocker then that heavily implicates roundbox because it reads to me like he's trying to divert and bus for some towncred

Divert and bus?? In that situation, with that much pressure on me? You insult my wolfgame by insinuating that I'd bus a more townread "partner" when I'm exceedingly scumread for no gain. Actually, the scumreads on me all insult my wolfgame. Go read the last gsme. I don't see a single parallel that you can draw to my wolfgame. You said "adjust to meta afterwards", well why don't you start adjusting? And why are you saying bussing roundbiz is dependant on roleblocker?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

no because that entire argument falls apart if he's the roleblocker

How?
Explain this to me. How would me being roleblocker change anything? I'd need to know who the vigi was to block them.
How would it affect my read on roundbox?
You're reaching when you should be reevaluating dude, find another target.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Divert and bus?? In that situation, with that much pressure on me? You insult my wolfgame by insinuating that I'd bus a more townread "partner" when I'm exceedingly scumread for no gain. Actually, the scumreads on me all insult my wolfgame. Go read the last gsme. I don't see a single parallel that you can draw to my wolfgame. You said "adjust to meta afterwards", well why don't you start adjusting? And why are you saying bussing roundbiz is dependant on roleblocker?

lmao dude I have drawn parallels

your interaction with mellon being like your interaction with dfr in vig turbo
your handling of haku this game being very similar to A&A

I'm not discussing this anymore, I just don't care, and I have a busy day today

bussing roundbox would make more sense if you're the roleblocker because roleblocker is more valuable, ldo

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

How?
Explain this to me. How would me being roleblocker change anything? I'd need to know who the vigi was to block them.
How would it affect my read on roundbox?
You're reaching when you should be reevaluating dude, find another target.

because then you can try to roleblock the vigi and might not get shot

deal with it, you're caught, you're getting lynched today

[AragakiAyase]

will be gone for the next 7 hours, I should make EOD

if people decide to lynch me over shado then lolthem

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

witch pretend that me and shado are exactly W/T

who's the wolf?

... I don't know why you keep forcing this narrative. If you're wolf, it makes no sense you'd tie your fate to mine unless you think you can talk your way out of it.
Which is why I'm not giving you that choice.
Vigi's gonna shoot you and rid us all of your prolific pestilence after you lynch me.
If you're town, thrn you really need to tone down that tunnel. Find someone else!

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

no because that entire argument falls apart if he's the roleblocker

...because?
I'm saying we all agree to take him off the lynch table at least for now, and leave the wolves to decide what to do with him. If he's someone the wolves don't want to kill, we'll know soon enough.
The vigilante (that my phone insists on autocorrecting if I don't type it out fully) should not shoot again until and unless we lynch at least one wolf anyway.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

witch pretend that me and shado are exactly W/T

who's the wolf?

you know this isn't even a question lololol