TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Charu

Like I see this, but this explains nothing.

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Sure tho bad vibes is part of it

As I mentioned earlier I felt like Sunfan was over-confident in believing that I was town, and never questioned it, which made me feel like he was pocketing me. Some of the things he said felt too underhandedly complimentary and it gave me the feeling that he wanted to get on my good side.

I described these as vibes because it's not exactly possible to prove that's what he was doing, but it's the vibe I get. I had the feeling he was doing this to other players too which Choof confirmed he was getting the same feelings.

He also self-metas a lot which tends to be a wolf thing to do (unless you're Haku then its NAI lol). He also blatantly OMGUS every single person who scum read him rather than actually searching for scum targets

This game is impossible to find anything but I'm digging through the thread right now

there ya go friendo

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

What's saving you right now is that Sunfan/Litodude/Charu were all unable to break my world with a display of logic.

I only got "you're wrong/you're delusional/etc." as answers which are obviously unacceptable for me because they had no problem breaking my arguments in previous games.

So, yeah you just need that tiny bit of extra information imo to get a chance at a pass for this phase.

So the last fucking 3 hours of this shit meant nothing to you, huh?

Me pointing out that you're still alive meant nothing to you too, huh?

[mellonxcollie]

please explain to me your universe in which a wolf gets into a three day long tunnel?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Charu

So the last fucking 3 hours of this shit meant nothing to you, huh?

Me pointing out that you're still alive meant nothing to you too, huh?

I respectfully value your efforts for my own selfish interests. That is the path of shameless progress.

Besides, one of my unexplored arguments against Sunfan is that he's following his bussing mantra while I talk to him about Litodude/Charu.

That's really tilting me in a bad way. He keeps insisting that they're both town and not only it's incriminating him, but it's also indirectly incriminating Litodude/Charu as well.

I have so many little things that I could say about all of you three that digging them gives me an headache.

Regardless, Raeko is worth evaluating and I'm just "one vote".

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Besides, one of my unexplored arguments against Sunfan is that he's following his bussing mantra while I talk to him about Litodude/Charu.

That's really tilting me in a bad way. He keeps insisting that they're both town and not only it's incriminating him, but it's also indirectly incriminating Litodude/Charu as well.

any talk of bussing is hypothetical since no wolves are dead and also this is sunfan's SELF META so let's no rely on that as valuable info please

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

there ya go friendo

I already evaluated this world. Sunfan was in danger of getting lynched D0.

I think he was going to flip wolf.

I also think he was town reading you so we would accuse you of being a wolf yourself.

I did that in Turbo X actually and you ended up getting mislynched for no reason.

[Hakulyte]

I'm just trying to see if you've looked into these things yourself.

[Hakulyte]

Note that Sunfan had me and FreezinIce as top scums in D0 as well.

That looks really funny at this point.

[Charu]

Doing library shit, hold plz

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm just trying to see if you've looked into these things yourself.

I haven't specifically looked into these things but yes, I do take my past games and experiences into account and that can be part of the "vibes" I was describing

[Hakulyte]

I guess I'll just leave some space for others to ask her things.

I'm starting to feel like I may have broke impartiality.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

there ya go friendo

Bro...

you quoted a post WAY into D1

I'm asking you where's your "wolf vibe" coming from in D0.

[Hakulyte]

Sunfan getting voted has been a recurrent theme since the beginning of this game, but he never quite ever got lynched.

I think reaching unanimity is the real issue with him. We have two groups of players imo within town.

The ones who use logic and reason a lot and the more intuitive players.

We don't tend to vote the same things.

I also have never seen Lito/Charu voting Sunfan.

I only recently saw Charu considering Sunfan.

I have a lot of trouble to see him come from a good place, but it's not impossible either.

[Charu]

1528 vs 2346

Almost 1000 post difference there, buddy

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I already evaluated this world. Sunfan was in danger of getting lynched D0.

I think he was going to flip wolf.

I also think he was town reading you so we would accuse you of being a wolf yourself.

I did that in Turbo X actually and you ended up getting mislynched for no reason.

That quote wasn't from D0

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

town
choof (will revisit if I feel like I need to and he will bury himself if he is a wolf. Keep in mind that I have a good read on him)
roundbox (sound posts and some mindmelds. weakest of my townreads and the one I think I am most likely to be wrong on.)
shado (ping votes are typical townshado and I like his flip on freezin. Gradiant also looked fine to me and was properly evaluating things in normal Gradiant town fashion imo; not coming to quick conclusions.)
raeko (CONTROERSIAL READ but nothing she's said has been wolfy. I think I've finally gotten a knack for reading her and while she never seems to have an agenda her early reads, while kind of strange to comment on, felt like she thought of them on her own.)
lito (dues a robot. I think his longer posts are more townie than not and his paranoia regarding charu/yoshl/gradiant being wolves for a coordinated haku vote felt like something a wolf wouldn't make up as fast as he did. I did flip on him a bit in the reread; but I do absolutely despise the way he plays the game, he's just not intentionally a piece of shit about it.)

wouldn't touch today
Yoshl (common sense post reaction to me v freezin, not good that he's dropped off but he left slank at the beginning of the game)
Charu (nothing at all out of his wolf range but I should say that there have been instances where I do think he would have likely done wolfy things if he was a wolf like if freezin/haku/lightknight were his partners)

whatever
Tokzic (dude can die he just hasn't done any wolfy shit)
lightknight (by no means does he look good but I don't really think anything he's said it bad. I do wish he would explain himself more but we're at the point where I don't think that this is going to happen)
inDheart (maybe should be one tier lower but I'm not trying to solve the game today. Posts at the end today are good enough for me and his opinion on Freezin has been extremely consistent so I wouldn't ideally kill him today.)

wolves
Haku (last game he moved his vote so often we joked about it in wolfchat. Keeping his vote on me and saying that he doesn't understand where I'm coming from feels not great to me at all. No volume tells this time around, and while he did say he was going to hold himself back more, there is no ovious town haku posts thus far.)
Freezin (I've said it already)

Lightknght and Tokzic can both die and I won't be sad
I'm putting Raeko one tier above whatever for really pride shit, I think I can read considering how I cleared her in allies and adversaries

if choof altogether stops posting tomorrow he should be killed no questions asked

The Raeko segment is one reason. Maybe there's something even earlier?

[Hakulyte]

That's #1466. It is D0.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I respectfully value your efforts for my own selfish interests. That is the path of shameless progress.

Besides, one of my unexplored arguments against Sunfan is that he's following his bussing mantra while I talk to him about Litodude/Charu.

That's really tilting me in a bad way. He keeps insisting that they're both town and not only it's incriminating him, but it's also indirectly incriminating Litodude/Charu as well.

I have so many little things that I could say about all of you three that digging them gives me an headache.

Regardless, Raeko is worth evaluating and I'm just "one vote".

btw, this is such a fucking slap in the face, holy shit.



Well excuse me for actually talking to you then. I honestly thought you were finally going "wait, I should rest and think".

What a major disappointment. I'm done with you.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Sure tho bad vibes is part of it

As I mentioned earlier I felt like Sunfan was over-confident in believing that I was town, and never questioned it, which made me feel like he was pocketing me. Some of the things he said felt too underhandedly complimentary and it gave me the feeling that he wanted to get on my good side.

I described these as vibes because it's not exactly possible to prove that's what he was doing, but it's the vibe I get. I had the feeling he was doing this to other players too which Choof confirmed he was getting the same feelings.

He also self-metas a lot which tends to be a wolf thing to do (unless you're Haku then its NAI lol). He also blatantly OMGUS every single person who scum read him rather than actually searching for scum targets

This game is impossible to find anything but I'm digging through the thread right now

You mean this quote?

IT's not.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

please explain to me your universe in which a wolf gets into a three day long tunnel?

Almost missed this because holy shit, I'm actually really mad right now.

This is easy.

First you say "I got wolfy vibes" and then don't explain, and wait and see what happens while going "oh, I don't know, but I like Tokzic's roleplay, and hey, everyone saying this isn't fun, we gotta make it fun!"

Then be kind of not there next phase, keep going with "Getting wolfy vibes from this dude." and don't really pair or think of any connections he could have. Knowing you didn't have these points, when EoD occurred, you kept on shouting "Kill thesunfan" with no connections still because you didn't want to paint your partners.

Now it's this phase, and guess what, you're still doing it, because you know making connections at this point is detrimental to your partners.