New version of stepmania.com

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by shakesoda

It's structured to both store and build packs. I'm building it so any packs uploaded will be available both as a whole and as individual songs, and any songs uploaded can be built into packs. I've found it really obnoxious that no simfile DB has ever treated them properly.

I've only got the groundwork for this done, though, so don't expect it to be ready soon.

I'm just wondering because it's something I've been wanting for quite a while (and I'm sure many people would love it as well).

Don't really care how long it takes as long as the end result is good, so for now get hype :V

[dAnceguy117]

I'll shoot some PMs/IMs and see who might be available to help with the new site code. (can someone give me a rundown of how to properly utilize Git and GitHub? that's the most intimidating thing for me personally, lol.)

as for easy simfiles/notecharts: sounds lovely.

what's tough in terms of making those simfiles, I think, is knowing the audience. do we cater to one style, or a few styles, or have one-size-fits-all notecharts? in my opinion, even "easy" charts for pad and keyboard should be very different from each other. not to mention, there's 4-panel, 8-panel, PIU, 4-key spread, 4-key index, 6-key, etc.

what approach should be taken?

[choof]

i'm tellin ya, let's start another stepmix

[ddr_f4n]

I would say that having files separated between keyboard and pad files would be a good idea, similar to how ZiV does.

[Charlo]

Originally Posted by shakesoda

People with some CSS/HTML/PHP skills can poke around at https://github.com/shakesoda/stepmania-site. Everyone else can keep these reports coming and generally just use the hell out of the site.

I have those skills! I will look around and see what I might be able to contribute to.

[Staiain]

wow could it even support like, playlist-ish pack so that i can make "staiain's speed favorites" from various other packs and just make it generate a download from that list if i shared it with someone?

[Razor]

stepmix plz

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by choof

i'm tellin ya, let's start another stepmix

Originally Posted by Razor

stepmix plz

I'm totally cool with doing another stepmix once things are in a better state

but I don't have any cool swag for the winners, would have to think of something

...also I'm broke

Originally Posted by Staiain

wow could it even support like, playlist-ish pack so that i can make "staiain's speed favorites" from various other packs and just make it generate a download from that list if i shared it with someone?

Yeah, that's something I've wanted to be able to do.

[TC_Halogen]

You guys realize that Stepmix is pad charting, right?

[Fission]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

can someone give me a rundown of how to properly utilize Git and GitHub?

github is just hosting the repository that you clone local copies of. making patches is and most likely what you are going to be doing with git in this case. to do this, refer to: http://ariejan.net/2009/10/26/how-to...atch-with-git/

[choof]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

You guys realize that Stepmix is pad charting, right?

is that bad or something?

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by choof

is that bad or something?

well most of us don't usually step for pad, so our output might be bad, which wouldn't be too rad

Originally Posted by Fission

github is just hosting the repository that you clone local copies of. making patches is and most likely what you are going to be doing with git in this case. to do this, refer to: http://ariejan.net/2009/10/26/how-to...atch-with-git/

tyvm

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by shakesoda

I would like to host an SMO server on stepmania.com and have better lobbies/matching in general... eventually. For now, working with smo.net on things sounds great.

It seems like to me that the only real way to move forward for a new smo is to update the smo protocol and kill all backwards compatibility. If this happens I feel like the game client will need a forced updater that checks for the current version to get online.

It needs to be able to pass the .sm file as a hash to check for exactly the same files because right now it only uses the song title and subtitle.

If it ever comes to it you could probably convince houkounchi to host the new smo and just redirect to smo.net and sm.com etc..

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by Izzy

It seems like to me that the only real way to move forward for a new smo is to update the smo protocol and kill all backwards compatibility. If this happens I feel like the game client will need a forced updater that checks for the current version to get online.

I dunno about a forced updater but it'd at least need a way to say "go update the damn game!"

It needs to be able to pass the .sm file as a hash to check for exactly the same files because right now it only uses the song title and subtitle.

This is actually built into the engine, SMO just doesn't use it.

If it ever comes to it you could probably convince houkounchi to host the new smo and just redirect to smo.net and sm.com etc..

Yeah, something like that would be viable, probably.

[shakesoda]

shakesoda outta nowhere

http://www.stepmania.com/ has been moved to the new design. if you need something that was on the old site that somehow wasn't already broken it's at old.stepmania.com.

I haven't got a bunch of the features I want to be on the site rolled out but unlike the other thing it at least functions.

[kommisar]

was wondering why i couldn't find my old threads haha


now if you could integrate the website into sm5...........

[Wafles]

Looks really clean and simple

One thing I'd recommend is having a "Getting Started" page or something to that degree. Some kind of basic introduction as to what StepMania actually is. Having the tiny little box at the top of the home page really isnt sufficient and the list of blog posts doesn't really need to be shown to new players going to the site to download it for the first time. Consider the audience a little better maybe because I don't think your home page is really working as well as it could.

My two cents at least..

[dAnceguy117]

completely forgot this was a thing. I'll try to start semi-frequenting, especially while out and about because it looks AMAZING on mobile.

oop looks like I gotta update my SM client

Originally Posted by kommisar

now if you could integrate the website into sm5...........

oohoohooo

[rCaliberGX]

is SMO integration going to be a thing?

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by rCaliberGX

is SMO integration going to be a thing?

how much integration are we talking

Originally Posted by kommisar

was wondering why i couldn't find my old threads haha


now if you could integrate the website into sm5...........

what if I told you...

Originally Posted by Wafles

Looks really clean and simple

One thing I'd recommend is having a "Getting Started" page or something to that degree. Some kind of basic introduction as to what StepMania actually is. Having the tiny little box at the top of the home page really isnt sufficient and the list of blog posts doesn't really need to be shown to new players going to the site to download it for the first time. Consider the audience a little better maybe because I don't think your home page is really working as well as it could.

My two cents at least..

Yeah, the main page isn't very noob friendly and a getting started page is a good idea. I just haven't had time to dedicate to designing + writing that up.