Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

[smartdude1212]

Well I find LGC fun because of all the one hand trills because EVERY OTHER ****ING TIME SOMEONE TRIES TO SNEAK ONE IN THAT ISN'T REBIRTH THEY GET SHOT DOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWN.

And who the **** had the cock shoved up their ass when they accepted Almost There hoooooleeeeeeeeee ****tttt files can be hard AND fun without being annoying as **** y'know

I'm still baffled too about how bmah's original Necropotence file wasn't accepted when, even then, it was funner than every other FMO/FGO file in that mass release. o_o

/nostalgia

oh and Silvuh's files are ****ing gold in my eyes

[jimerax]

AT was the only song that's decent and hard enough for D5 final in the queue/FMO batch, that's all.

I thought Necro was easily acceptable with a few rhythm error/pattern fixes at that time.

[smartdude1212]

Your definition of decent stretches farrrr O:

[alexdestructions]

I'd like to play a rainbow colored file, like Piano X Forte, very well stepped.

Also Necro is a decent stepfile, decent steps, lots of errors in some arrows that wouldn't go there and would need to be added.

[operationstrawbarry]

Ehhh... to me, there is no such thing as a universially perfect or even a decent file. One guy hates it while one guy likes it. Piano Forte is alright. It was fun, but it was alright. For every file, there is a divide between people that like the song/file and people that dont like it. Even a file that is superbly accurate and correct, there will still be that divide, which sux in reality because no matter what, there will be that someone or that group of someones, that will basically go out of their to find an error in something thats perfectly fine and done, and basically succeeds in doing it, announce it to the world. That perfectly done file isn't decent anymore is it? It has errors, but only to that group that found it and to whoever that group convinces. ITs just sad, but thats just the way it is.

Edit: Im a tiny bit late on this conversation, but whatever.

[stargroup100]

Originally Posted by operationstrawbarry

Ehhh... to me, there is no such thing as a universially perfect or even a decent file.

haha you don't get it either

no DUH. there's never going to be a perfect file that everyone likes. there will never be ANYTHING in the entire WORLD that everyone will like. but you can continue to better yourself as a stepartist in an attempt to allow as many people as possible to like your file.

of course, maybe this isn't even your target. I've mentioned before that there are different kinds of players. maybe instead of trying to cater to a wide audience, you might want to impress to a specific audience, or maybe even something in between

other thing to keep in mind is that although people have different tastes, there is a different between tasteful and tasteless. here's one example: suppose you made a file. wouldn't it feel better to get positive reviews from someone experienced than someone who has no idea what they're talking about? usually, the experienced people have developed better tastes through time, which is why we respect their opinions more

so even though you can't make a perfect file, you can try to cater to a certain audience or multiple audiences

holy crap you guys have shallow thinking

EDIT: ps be very careful what you call an "error." most people who say this have no idea what they're talking about or do not see what the stepartist is trying to accomplish. be very careful what you describe as an "error"

[bmah]

Mm, I agree with stargroup, but determining who's more right or wrong in this argument is dicey.

Originally Posted by alexdestructions

Also Necro is a decent stepfile, decent steps, lots of errors in some arrows that wouldn't go there and would need to be added.

Please submit your version with steps of your preference.

[hi19hi19]

The likelihood of Necro getting a v2 is nil, whether or not it needs one...

@ smartdude... I think almost every one of Shash's files has 1 handed trills, and fast ones at that. Plus, a bunch of new files with 1 handed trills are coming in soon.

[smartdude1212]

Yes, but Shash's files are relatively old in comparison so I can't refer to them because they didn't really go through a judging process.

[hi19hi19]

LGC didn't really go through a judging process either lmao

It's a relic from the era when Rebirth +'d anything that was on sync. It probably wouldn't have made it through past today's judges, and not only because of the one handed trills :/

[Shashakiro]

LGC would have had no chance now. Even if JX was too busy daydreaming about the loli singing in the song to notice how bad the steps were, I know for a fact blu and I would have slaughtered that file in the batch.

Also, none of my currently ingame files have gone through the batch/queue process. The only two files I've submitted in this way will almost certainly be queue'd, however. As far as I can remember, only my extremely streamy files have one-handed trills, like SP, KK04, and VB.

By the way, I like to seperate my own judgment of what a quality file is from what I personally find enjoyable to play. I feel I am a reasonably good judge of what quality steps are, but in the end the files I will return to over and over are simply going to be the ones that accompany my favorite songs and are decent. 90% of the fun factor in any file comes from song choice for me, and as I stated before, these are typically constant BPM songs in the 200-240 range. I'd say about 10% has to do with the step quality, although this can be much more if the file is really really bad (see LGC). But even a mediocre BB Revenge file will be infinitely more inherently fun for me than rainbow colored stuff like Final Step, even if I can recognize that Final Step is probably a better file. And even LGC is faaaaaaar more fun to me than Power, even if Power has much higher quality as a stepfile, because Power is too boring for me to have any fun playing it.

[stargroup100]

well that's why step artists only step songs they like

but as a judge you do have to separate between the two, yes

[gnr61]

someone send me a file for LGC because i can't find the mp3 and then i won't have to sync it ;D

cuz the song is ~cool~
edit: nvm someone just put one in the DB h4h4

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

haha sm professor. seriously I should write a book or something

I would buy that book.

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

LGC would have had no chance now. Even if JX was too busy daydreaming about the loli singing in the song to notice how bad the steps were, I know for a fact blu and I would have slaughtered that file in the batch.

Not a big deal, but the characters singing in that song are too old for it to count as loli, but hey, i get your point there.

[-Yukari-]

Originally Posted by jimerax

There's no room for argument about a person's taste.

ITT there's no room for Stargroup. What the **** does he contribute? Long-winded rants about one thing one person said when at the end of the rant he has essentially AGREED with the person? What was that whole thing about Strawbarry's post? You said "haha you don't get it" and then you said "no duh this statement is correct" jesus christ do you HAVE to post an argument to EVERYONE in EVERY post? I have never seen you agree with anyone. I could say things you have said in your own ****ing posts and you would argue those points because you JUST HAVE TO ARGUE.

Stargroup, YOU are the one that doesn't get it. YOU are the one that doesn't get that there is no concrete definition of taste, your "taste" isn't "right", your opinion isn't "right", and nobody really gives a flying **** about it anyway. What have you contributed to this community, a bunch of really bad "jazzy" files? Holy ****, Bicycle Break, good job there. You also took a major **** on Blue Rose, which IMO could have been a fun song if you hadn't stepped to every hi-hat as if it were quad deserving.

Stop presenting what you THINK as if you are CORRECT. It's a waste of time to read ALL of your posts in here and if you stopped posting forever and ever, I think people would forget about you in about 2 days. Me, I'd forget about ya in about 7 hours, give me a PBJ and a couple rounds of transmigration in Disgaea and it's done.

Your Stepmania "theory" and "knowledge" are ultimately your opinions on the way things work based on the way you step files, which is to make everything as big a dump as possible. If you wrote a book about it, don't lie, no one would buy it. First of all no one knows who the **** you are because you're probably 12 or 13 and think you know everything, and second of all, it would be absolute trash.

I'd post plenty more of what I think is a good or a bad file in here but I know that Stargroup will come ****ing RUNNING to post retaliation of each of my thoughts because HE is correct (in his opinion) and I am INCORRECT {in my opinion) and you know what? That **** gets old.

I mean I try to be helpful around here and about 97% of my posts are good but every once in a while some asshole comes around that really pisses me off so bye I guess

[Coolboyrulez0]

Holy **** someone is angry.
Stargroup is just playing around most of the time and he's b& anyways so no need to continue further drama. Also nice use of THIS stuff! Just relax... it's Stargroup XD

[robertsona]

ffr is pretty serious

[bmah]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

The likelihood of Necro getting a v2 is nil, whether or not it needs one...

No, the point of my previous post was to show how rather baseless alex's comment was.

[Knoobish]

Originally Posted by robertsona

ffr is pretty serious

yeah

Also

What the **** does he contribute?

What exactly have you contributed? I see a few stargroup files in the game, which means someone liked them, and also a few songs he's created along with being a file tester for simfile artists for a period of time, I wouldn't say that's nothing.

YOU are the one that doesn't get that there is no concrete definition of taste, your "taste" isn't "right", your opinion isn't "right", and nobody really gives a flying **** about it anyway.

Even though stargroup is pretty blatant about what he wants to say, I don't think he ever claims that his way of stepping files is inherently better than anyone elses. You may think he's implying it, but I'm pretty sure you're making a mountain out of the way he talks.

Your Stepmania "theory" and "knowledge" are ultimately your opinions on the way things work based on the way you step files, which is to make everything as big a dump as possible. If you wrote a book about it, don't lie, no one would buy it. First of all no one knows who the **** you are because you're probably 12 or 13 and think you know everything, and second of all, it would be absolute trash.

yeah man his opinions suck yours are the best i agree 100%. also nice ad hominem argument there bud.oh and who would write a book about stepmania, im pretty sure that's a joke lol

HE is correct (in his opinion) and I am INCORRECT {in my opinion) and you know what? That **** gets old.

if you think you're incorrect then why bother posting unless you're looking for an answer you're dumb bye.

[CainiteCaitiff]

I have a question that is gonna sound stupid.. But i'm looking for a program that lets me make FFR files from scratch. Where can I find it???