TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

@Manti why are you so afraid of kitb

Wasn't afraid of a Kitb, but the only reason I voted Juber was to make the vote closer to see if anyone would move. Call it info gathering.

Nobody bit in the last panic moments (except me i guess but i created the scenario), so wolves were okay with going into a 50/50 with Juber/FFA and that probably indicates wagons were T/T.

[Shadow_God_10]

WOW! It's nice in here....Hell sure seems to be a great place... King sized bed, a hot tub, AND a sauna....And...OH LORD IS THAT A STRIPPER POLE



I'm so happy I could die....Oh wait...

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Wasn't afraid of a Kitb, but the only reason I voted Juber was to make the vote closer to see if anyone would move. Call it info gathering.

Nobody bit in the last panic moments (except me i guess but i created the scenario), so wolves were okay with going into a 50/50 with Juber/FFA and that probably indicates wagons were T/T.

two people weren't even present for EOD and while it's unlikely they were both wolves, expecting people to respond to that in the final minute is absolutely bonkers to me

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm a bit tired but I wanted to see who was night killed.

I'm not sure if it was due to wacky rules or whatever, but I don't quite get it.

wolves only had 3 options and if FFA was a part of that 3, then they only had a choice between 2 people to kill.

they could have simply chosen the option who made more posts?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Wasn't afraid of a Kitb, but the only reason I voted Juber was to make the vote closer to see if anyone would move. Call it info gathering.

Nobody bit in the last panic moments (except me i guess but i created the scenario), so wolves were okay with going into a 50/50 with Juber/FFA and that probably indicates wagons were T/T.

Or it could be they were on the list. Get rid of the possibility of getting a case on one of the wolves. Then again, no one seemed to mind either one of them getting put on a wagon so maybe not.

My brain is too tired to think right now.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

two people weren't even present for EOD and while it's unlikely they were both wolves, expecting people to respond to that in the final minute is absolutely bonkers to me

I expect higher\quicker activity then it seems like FFR is currently playing at. TBH Town right now feels lazy and disinterested. Barely any accusations D1 that were backed up by voting and thoroughly looking for answers in the case of error. FFA was the main train most of the day.

Old games were much faster paced and often had 4-5 vote switches in the final minute or two with 2-3 people put at L-1 or 2 throughout the day. It made wolves uncomfortable and often caused them to slip up enough when pressured to be caught.

Right now it feels like we're throwing darts at wall covered in fog of war and not cutting away at the fog of war with any urgency.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

wolves only had 3 options and if FFA was a part of that 3, then they only had a choice between 2 people to kill.

they could have simply chosen the option who made more posts?

I like this theory. Lewdy was an active poster.

Though he was all over the place... just intrigued wolves decided to get rid of him compared to others. Maybe the other options weren't viable to them for some reason?

Man... I wanna see what they could choose to pick Lewdy (No offense!)

[Charu]

Okay, it's midnight, I'm clicking put.

Night!

[DarkManticoreX2]

In other news, MML’s vote sitting in me through the end of the day when I obviously wasn’t going to be lynched is both petty and lazy. It also gets him out of having to put a vote on either wagon.

Why do people think MML is town?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Charu

Also, the heck was that EoD anyways in the last five minutes. I didn't mind the wagons, but I wanna point a suspicious finger at Manti for flip flopping like that.

Seems odd

That’s all you want to do? That’s not very [twgv]charu[\twgv] of you.

[DarkManticoreX2]

I hate mobile posting I suck at it so much

charu

[FreezinIce]

manti

imo the only way flip flopping the vote like that makes sense on a d0 where you have nothing to gain controlling the lynch is if you are a wolf and want to kill a town that isnt on your town/merlin list so you can gather more info about the merlins and improve your odds of matching them.

just in general that was really sussy and not something id ever expect a town to do

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

manti

imo the only way flip flopping the vote like that makes sense on a d0 where you have nothing to gain controlling the lynch is if you are a wolf and want to kill a town that isnt on your town/merlin list so you can gather more info about the merlins and improve your odds of matching them.

just in general that was really sussy and not something id ever expect a town to do

You’ve been playing with too lazy town. FFA was the better lynch between juber and him. Juber wouldn’t have even been a respectable second wagon without my vote to try to make the wagons competitive. We had roundbox who was meh about his vote and your completely inactive D1 with a side vote of juber + shadow god.

I’ll take the FFA wagon because I like the people on it better.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

manti

imo the only way flip flopping the vote like that makes sense on a d0 where you have nothing to gain controlling the lynch is if you are a wolf and want to kill a town that isnt on your town/merlin list so you can gather more info about the merlins and improve your odds of matching them.

just in general that was really sussy and not something id ever expect a town to do

i like this

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Charu

I like this theory. Lewdy was an active poster.

Though he was all over the place... just intrigued wolves decided to get rid of him compared to others. Maybe the other options weren't viable to them for some reason?

Man... I wanna see what they could choose to pick Lewdy (No offense!)

absolutely. i would like to investigate this bolded bit more tomorrow

[MixMasterLar]

I actually wrote a long post that probably crossed the lines so instead I'm just going to say this and move on:

Manti, unlike half these players I've played you. I've wolfed with you. Twice. I know your wolf strat has always been to wait last second and then try to use one post to indict someone, only figuring out a case of someone called you in it. I know you don't try to make random votes at EOD "for info" when you're town----as town you rarely make them, ever.

I am not buying what you are selling, I do not believe you

I look forward to your one sentenced canned response because you didn't read this past the vote, and therefore are unable to actually respond to me. When you do that, I will probably decline to engage your posts further

[MixMasterLar]

For everyone else: I will look back on EOD after I wake up in the afternoon and give thoughts then

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I actually wrote a long post that probably crossed the lines so instead I'm just going to say this and move on:

Manti, unlike half these players I've played you. I've wolfed with you. Twice. I know your wolf strat has always been to wait last second and then try to use one post to indict someone, only figuring out a case of someone called you in it. I know you don't try to make random votes at EOD "for info" when you're town----as town you rarely make them, ever.

I am not buying what you are selling, I do not believe you

I look forward to your one sentenced canned response because you didn't read this past the vote, and therefore are unable to actually respond to me. When you do that, I will probably decline to engage your posts further

That strat is predicated on a lack of time and/or interest. I signed up for this game because I had interest. I still lack time and may never have it again as my college days are long gone. I don’t get 4+ hours to hawk the thread anymore and draw conclusions. I see posts I don’t like I dig into them to figure out the reason. That’s why you got voted.

You’re saying my votes are random which is an abusive twist on reality.

I voted you because I didn’t like your 180 on the no lynch option. You were kinda for it but not really sold until you got pressure and then you backed off. This smells like a wolf feeling out what he can sell. There were no heavy bites and there was a little bit of pushback so you let it go. Sure humans can do this too but it’s a bit more likely from the wolf end IMO.

I voted Juber for wagonomics. He was not the better lynch.
I voted FFA because juber’s wagon was a pres vote from FFA, a mystery vote from freezin which I did not like. A non committal roundbox and SG vs my two heavy town reads.

Did anyone actually like the juber wagon? I think the answer is no.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

That strat is predicated on a lack of time and/or interest. I signed up for this game because I had interest. I still lack time and may never have it again as my college days are long gone. I don’t get 4+ hours to hawk the thread anymore and draw conclusions. I see posts I don’t like I dig into them to figure out the reason. That’s why you got voted.

You’re saying my votes are random which is an abusive twist on reality.

I voted you because I didn’t like your 180 on the no lynch option. You were kinda for it but not really sold until you got pressure and then you backed off. This smells like a wolf feeling out what he can sell. There were no heavy bites and there was a little bit of pushback so you let it go. Sure humans can do this too but it’s a bit more likely from the wolf end IMO.

I voted Juber for wagonomics. He was not the better lynch.
I voted FFA because juber’s wagon was a pres vote from FFA, a mystery vote from freezin which I did not like. A non committal roundbox and SG vs my two heavy town reads.

Did anyone actually like the juber wagon? I think the answer is no.

in my experience humans dont make votes wondering how the wagon will look after the fact, they make votes on people they think are wolves or make bad votes like what i did with no info.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

in my experience humans dont make votes wondering how the wagon will look after the fact, they make votes on people they think are wolves or make bad votes like what i did with no info.

Cfd’s and end of day vote movement are very effective places to build associations. I didn’t factor in the unresponsiveness/lethargy of D1 I guess and it’s biting me pretty good at the moment.