TWG 206: Betrayal at House on the Hill GAME THREAD

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

OK thoughts on game stuff:

I like Arp's vibe, they seem like they are trying to get into the game

Noobies is quite focused on non-game stuff. that's to be expected for a noobie on D0 lol but it could also be a bit of trying to blend into the thread?

Freezi MIA after briefly popping in, not super weird, it's not very alignment indicative one way or another

Charu scary bird

Lar off the table (today) due to immaculate protection from Goddess Ayu

Everyone else talk more?

• yay!
• I think they're just trying to get to know everyone; I was kinda doing that too
• maybe they forgot?
• agreed
• 👍
• agreed

[Arp!]

wow, I did not expect lists to look like that. oops!

[E-B-E]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

•The name in bolded red is the vote, so that's how we tell each other we're voting (you can also vote with [twgv] as the tag)

•I waited like 24 hours

•I already explained but I couldn't vote for Raeko because she's my Ayu Brother today

Some questions for you E-B-E:

Why shouldn't I vote you?

Is absence of content not a good reason to cast a vote? Wouldn't generating content in thread make it easier for town to solve?

Have you seen Princess Bride?

You shouldn't vote me because I'm a newcomer and don't want to die round one, and there are others who have given the same (and in some cases even less) content then I (notably FreezinICE and Lights).

Furthermore, regarding "Is absence of content not a good reason to cast a vote?"
...no it's not, there's literally a legal precedent of "Absence of evidence is not evidence in and of itself"

I have not seen Princess Bride due to being only 15, but I've heard of it and it is somewhat in my backlog of things to watch when I have the motivation lol.

But on the converse, why shouldn't I vote you? The aggressive early vote with no evidence included in that vote feels more like the play of a traitor who wants to try to kill the seer as early as possible, no?

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Arp!

darn, I don't think I have access to either of those :c

Y'all ain't got Blu-ray discs where you at?

Originally Posted by Arp!

wow, I did not expect lists to look like that. oops!

It looks like a list to me, although a little confusing at first to respond that way

Any more thoughts on the game?

[NoobiesAreTheBest]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Noobies is quite focused on non-game stuff. that's to be expected for a noobie on D0 lol but it could also be a bit of trying to blend into the thread?

for a D0 conversation, and for a new player here, it's not surprising that i would talk about non-game stuff to other players, since i'm trying to get to know you guys better. as mentioned before, we do not have any information yet, (and i don't blame you suspecting me, as i talk more than i should be supposed to)

as for you, Raeko (is it ok if i call you Raeko), you seem pretty sincere in posting. also you're getting a pass from me for liking Sea of Thieves lol (for now >:D)

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by E-B-E

You shouldn't vote me because I'm a newcomer and don't want to die round one, and there are others who have given the same (and in some cases even less) content then I (notably FreezinICE and Lights).

Fair enough response.

Originally Posted by E-B-E

Furthermore, regarding "Is absence of content not a good reason to cast a vote?"
...no it's not, there's literally a legal precedent of "Absence of evidence is not evidence in and of itself"

I'll buck against this a little. in this game we are guaranteed to lose a town every night phase, whittling us down over time. The earlier we solve the game, the better. The way to solve is to determine motivations and sincerity of the other players, and everyone will disagree on the best way to achieve that but almost everyone will agree that you can't judge someone without any content to evaluate.

It's less to do with lack of content being evidence that you're a wolf

Originally Posted by E-B-E

I have not seen Princess Bride due to being only 15, but I've heard of it and it is somewhat in my backlog of things to watch when I have the motivation lol.

It's super good.

Originally Posted by E-B-E

But on the converse, why shouldn't I vote you? The aggressive early vote with no evidence included in that vote feels more like the play of a traitor who wants to try to kill the seer as early as possible, no?

Voting is not PR (Power Role) Hunting
Also we shouldn't really talk about PRs d0 because we don't want the real Seer to feel pressure to claim/slip up and say something that will target them in the night.

The reason I voted you over others is that you seem to had a strong first post but then didn't return. I wanted to see if you would engage with me if you had a vote, how quickly you would respond to me, if the logic of your rebuttal was sound, and if you disappear again once I move my vote or stick around.

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Y'all ain't got Blu-ray discs where you at?

I don't think I own a device that can play blu-ray discs, unfortunately

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

It looks like a list to me, although a little confusing at first to respond that way

my bad, I'll use quotes next time

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Any more thoughts on the game?

not really :c

I had a thought that, because you voted for E-B-E so early, both you and E-B-E could be werewolves and you could be trying to remove yourself from the discussion of who the werewolf is by being the first to vote one out, but...
- that would be a very rude thing to do to someone who has never played before, and you don't seem like that kind of person
- on second thought, that wouldn't even make sense because it would only make you more suspicious; the only person who is guaranteed to know the identity of a werewolf is the other werewolf
- AND you changed your vote anyway, so this line of thinking probably doesn't make any sense

there are too many possibilities right now to really make an informed decision, and the possibility I just described is barely a possibility at all, so I'm going to try to wait until there's a little more information to play around with

[Charu]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

NoobiesAreTheBest

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by NoobiesAreTheBest

(and i don't blame you suspecting me, as i talk more than i should be supposed to)

No no no don't let anyone ever tell you that you post too much in a game entirely played by posting

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by NoobiesAreTheBest

for a D0 conversation, and for a new player here, it's not surprising that i would talk about non-game stuff to other players, since i'm trying to get to know you guys better. as mentioned before, we do not have any information yet, (and i don't blame you suspecting me, as i talk more than i should be supposed to)

as for you, Raeko (is it ok if i call you Raeko), you seem pretty sincere in posting. also you're getting a pass from me for liking Sea of Thieves lol (for now >)

Yes, Raeko is fine

I'm not necessarily suspicious of you at the moment but just taking note of how you are behaving so I can form a conclusion when I have a bit more info

Sea of Thieves is great though, I'm excited to play it again hehe.

Originally Posted by E-B-E

The aggressive early vote with no evidence included in that vote feels more like the play of a traitor who wants to try to kill the seer as early as possible, no?

I get where you are coming from and why Lar's vote looks suspect to you

Generally though you don't want to give any hints that you might or might not be the seer. It's usually the best idea to not mention the seer at all... don't make any guesses on who it is, don't imply that it might be yourself, don't give them any suggestions. Just let them do their thing and hide for as long as possible.

Also, usually super early votes like that are considered "pressure" votes. They're not generally the vote that someone will stick with at the end of the phase, rather they are voting the person in order to get them to respond/light a fire under their booty

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Arp!

I don't think I own a device that can play blu-ray discs, unfortunately


my bad, I'll use quotes next time


not really :c

I had a thought that, because you voted for E-B-E so early, both you and E-B-E could be werewolves and you could be trying to remove yourself from the discussion of who the werewolf is by being the first to vote one out, but...
- that would be a very rude thing to do to someone who has never played before, and you don't seem like that kind of person
- on second thought, that wouldn't even make sense because it would only make you more suspicious; the only person who is guaranteed to know the identity of a werewolf is the other werewolf
- AND you changed your vote anyway, so this line of thinking probably doesn't make any sense

there are too many possibilities right now to really make an informed decision, and the possibility I just described is barely a possibility at all, so I'm going to try to wait until there's a little more information to play around with

Okay, you're just town forever

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Arp!

that would be a very rude thing to do to someone who has never played before, and you don't seem like that kind of person

Hehehehehehe......

[NoobiesAreTheBest]

Originally Posted by Charu

Mmmmmmmmmmm

NoobiesAreTheBest

fair enough. i wouldn't want to mess with the mighty bird anyways.

on the subject of voting, i shall cast mine too.

FreezinIce

[Charu]

Attention new players!

Voting is scary, HOWEVER, 99% of the time it's the correct thing to do! Someone has to be flipped, and understandably no one's wants to be flipped because then their game is done.

It's bad not to vote, bad for for town anyway!

[Charu]

Originally Posted by NoobiesAreTheBest

fair enough. i wouldn't want to mess with the mighty bird anyways.

on the subject of voting, i shall cast mine too.

FreezinIce

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Arp!

I had a thought that, because you voted for E-B-E so early, both you and E-B-E could be werewolves and you could be trying to remove yourself from the discussion of who the werewolf is by being the first to vote one out, but...
- that would be a very rude thing to do to someone who has never played before, and you don't seem like that kind of person
- on second thought, that wouldn't even make sense because it would only make you more suspicious; the only person who is guaranteed to know the identity of a werewolf is the other werewolf
- AND you changed your vote anyway, so this line of thinking probably doesn't make any sense

I wish Sunfan was here to read this

What you're describing is called bussing (from the phrase "threw his friend under the bus") and it's sadly something that some birdsplayers do, but this would be a very egregious time to do because losing half your team as a wold d0 sucks, and the vets don't clear people for voting a wolf with no progression shown anyway. I hope my last post puts into context why I voted E-B-E and why I switched for you

Originally Posted by Charu

Mmmmmmmmmmm

NoobiesAreTheBest

Spicy
Very spicy

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Charu

Attention new players!

Voting is scary, HOWEVER, 99% of the time it's the correct thing to do! Someone has to be flipped, and understandably no one's wants to be flipped because then their game is done.

It's bad not to vote, bad for for town anyway!

And this is Flash Flash Revolution, everyone will change their votes within 2 mins of the end of phase.... be ready for that! rofl

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Hehehehehehe......

o.o'

Originally Posted by Arp!

I'm going to try to wait until there's a little more information to play around with

actually my brain just processed the fact that being able to change your vote means that casting a vote isn't like this big final decision with massive consequences like I thought it was, so...

FreezinIce

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Charu

Okay, you're just town forever

Honestly I sort of agree. Even setting aside that it's a lot of good reasoning for a new player, I don't think a new wolf player fakes that. We either got a town or a deduction game genius on our hands

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Hehehehehehe......

🤫

[NoobiesAreTheBest]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

And this is Flash Flash Revolution, everyone will change their votes within 2 mins of the end of phase.... be ready for that! rofl

dirty, very dirty... unfortunately that's off the table for me, like i said before, MST hits when i'll still be snoring. damn european timezones!