TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

[Adam33]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

This also rubs me the wrong way hugely, because from what i've seen, there's been no effort to look at the other side of the coin of stacking vs. rng voting, especially with the ramifications of the setup

especially because there's no effort to try and convince cel/anyone else in this mindset otherwise, and it's more of a "you're stupid" line, which feels absolutely gross and more indicative of someone who is trying to avoid dropping actual reasoning in

RNG voting has no benefits and is the most vulnerable of all possible options. It is strictly downside. I have told you why stacking is valuable. If you have anything to offer in favor of RNG, I will pick it apart for you so you can "see" the thought process

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

the overall vibe adam's giving off is much less of "let's make sure town wins the event" and much more of "i want to make sure i have a chance at winning" which even if you're



you can see that it's scummy

That's not the impression I got from his posts at all, whoa.

...They are being a bit rude though, that I can agree with.

[Hakulyte]

I guess splitting votes between Amelia/Eirika could work since round one is all about top 3.

We could technically keep up everyone in assuming everyone only voted between 3 waifus.

There's technically still room to adjust for that.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Charu

Why is Adam getting hit with this...?

Adam, don't let the peeps keep you down! Fight the power!

Seriously, why? It's exactly what me and Haku are going on about...

The "vote and say who you voted for" part

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Adam33

RNG voting has no benefits and is the most vulnerable of all possible options. It is strictly downside. I have told you why stacking is valuable. If you have anything to offer in favor of RNG, I will pick it apart for you so you can "see" the thought process

Y'know what, no one else has done it yet, go get 'em, tiger.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by Adam33

I really enjoy being condescendingly taught mechanics :P


You're a silly goose. I picked the A name because I have an A name, and because alphabetical sorting is default. This gives people the most reason to believe the vote/scheme was least likely to be chosen for a reason. And if you think centralizing votes is bad, you're so far below level 0 that I don't know what to tell you

I dont know what I've done to vy for your distaste, but this seems to be unjustly... animus I guess. It's a bad idea even if you try to justify it and if anything your extended defense of it is furthering my suspicion of a biased intent

[Zoshi]

What the fuck so many pages


I read like 4 so far and I have to say I find it odd those who voted for the event right away. Did you not think all of us voting together would be beneficial ?

[Adam33]

Originally Posted by Xiz

The "vote and say who you voted for" part

The reason why you say is to encourage other to vote with you. Which I wanted because
1. It means more people are likely to vote who I'm voting for
2. It gives people incentive to stack votes, because others will follow suit
3. It increasingly defeats the pooh-poohing of the person I was replying to

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Xiz

The "vote and say who you voted for" part

Eeeh... I mean if we want to get everyone through... I would say everyone would need to tell who they voted for.

Otherwise if we want to treat this as a pure RNG event, then yeah, I suppose

[Adam33]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

actually i recommend doing exactly not what adam says tbh

Originally Posted by Celirra

I wish sunfan was a player not host so I could tell him this is bad because of how an alphabet voting strategy was really bad and manipulatable in survivor once

Aka this is bad and frankly so far you're looking bad

Originally Posted by Celirra

I dont know what I've done to vy for your distaste, but this seems to be unjustly... animus I guess. It's a bad idea even if you try to justify it and if anything your extended defense of it is furthering my suspicion of a biased intent

WHY IS ADAM REPLYING TO PEOPLE RUDELY AFTER THEY SAID STUPID RUDE SHIT TO HIM? BURN ADAM


That will be all of my caps use, dw

[Adam33]

"It's a bad idea even if you try to justify it" is new favorite quotes tier

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

So essentially you think there's a deeper meaning behind the waifu contestants?

I think it's pretty obvious

[DaBackpack]

you guys should let me decide who to vote for

[Daikyi]

Originally Posted by Adam33

RNG voting has no benefits and is the most vulnerable of all possible options. It is strictly downside. I have told you why stacking is valuable. If you have anything to offer in favor of RNG, I will pick it apart for you so you can "see" the thought process

i already explained previously, where there's also the clear note that the final round will be a "sudden death tiebreaker" unique from the rng voting rounds to actually determine who the one winner of the event is.

we don't know whether or not talking about the event at this point will still be allowed because the round will be explained with a new ruleset at that time. In addition, i'm fairly sure a final round event like that would be much more balanced towards a smaller group of people, considering the 2 rounds previous to it to narrow down the voting pool, or else the event could have just been the sudden death round immediately instead of consisting of 2 extra rounds.

you say that RNG is vulnerable. Private communication is not allowed regarding the event. The only resource we have is public communication. In fact, we can probably get even more information knowing who got knocked out by voting what, given the "vulnerability", and future information that's inevitably going to come through the thread

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

you guys should let me decide who to vote for

...Y'know what, not a bad idea. It would satisfy Xiz's paranoia for sure, heh.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by Adam33

WHY IS ADAM REPLYING TO PEOPLE RUDELY AFTER THEY SAID STUPID RUDE SHIT TO HIM? BURN ADAM


That will be all of my caps use, dw

I wasnt rude you snickerdoodle, you were bad in a sense of looking scummy, not bad in the sense of being a snickerdoodle

[Charu]

But maybe not, since

OoooOOOoooOOoo

Mystery game

*Wiggly fingery*

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Charu

Eeeh... I mean if we want to get everyone through... I would say everyone would need to tell who they voted for.

Otherwise if we want to treat this as a pure RNG event, then yeah, I suppose

I can guarantee that I will never say who I am voting for here. Even if you get literally everyone else in the game besides me. If I get night killed or something for it then so be it. Death by waifu isn't a bad way to go.

[Xiz]

If you all want to coordinate, I won't stop you.

[Adam33]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

i already explained previously, where there's also the clear note that the final round will be a "sudden death tiebreaker" unique from the rng voting rounds to actually determine who the one winner of the event is.

we don't know whether or not talking about the event at this point will still be allowed because the round will be explained with a new ruleset at that time. In addition, i'm fairly sure a final round event like that would be much more balanced towards a smaller group of people, considering the 2 rounds previous to it to narrow down the voting pool, or else the event could have just been the sudden death round immediately instead of consisting of 2 extra rounds.

you say that RNG is vulnerable. Private communication is not allowed regarding the event. The only resource we have is public communication. In fact, we can probably get even more information knowing who got knocked out by voting what, given the "vulnerability", and future information that's inevitably going to come through the thread

1. If you are suggesting the "tiebreaker" is biased, I suggest you read the bastard mechanics portion of the OP
2. Yes, we do. Read the event please. "This event differs from all following events in that discussion of the event as it is ongoing is perfectly legal. There is, however, no strategic planning for the event in private chats."
3. I don't know if you've been in games like this before, but that is respected about 50% of the time. Usually someone will slip up and talk about strategy, and everyone will sheep them. I have already said this.
4. This is interesting, if you don't think about it too much. Here's the breakdown:
A villager gets eliminated, we have a tighter PoE of who might have gotten the prize if it goes to a wolf + unclaimed.
A wolf gets eliminated, it is the exact same either way.
So unless you think it is BETTER to have an infinitesimal chance at figuring out who won a prize and then didn't claim it than it is to have villagers in the rand, your suggestion is worse. Also, if you think that is better, you should voluntarily not vote and eliminate yourself from the event, because your strategy hinges on it being optimal for villagers to be eliminated from the event