12-5-2013, 11:03 AM | #301 |
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Re: My older step-cousin just got sentenced
why does non-equilibrium thermo prove your point?
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12-5-2013, 11:04 AM | #302 |
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yeah i mean unless guido is arguing determinism his argument holds no weight.
why did the dodo-bird die off? the second law of thermodynamics. right.
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12-5-2013, 11:05 AM | #303 |
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Pretty sure he is arguing determinism.
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12-5-2013, 11:05 AM | #304 | |
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mfw this thread turns into an "evolution has no direction" thread. Too much stress is being put on genetic evolution and not enough on a larger scale. The "evolution" of the universe is driven by the thermodynamic principle that entropy is always increasing. Biology in general is a product of this, since: Quote:
Although I'd like to see a source for that^ it makes sense to me. So since the whole concept of biological survival is pertinent to fulfilling the 2nd law of thermo, evolution is directed after all. |
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12-5-2013, 11:07 AM | #306 |
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doesnt that go against his religion?
determinism = unjust God
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12-5-2013, 11:10 AM | #307 | |
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just because something is better at increasing entropy doesnt mean that that thing will be preferred. the second law says nothing about how entropy is increased. in fact it doesnt even say that it necessarily will be, only that it cannot be decreased
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12-5-2013, 11:11 AM | #308 |
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the idea that the second law somehow chooses things based on how they effect the overall entropy of the universe is ridiculous. all it says is that it is impossible to go from a less ordered state to a more ordered state without external intervention.
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12-5-2013, 11:13 AM | #309 |
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I admit, it gets foggy and seemingly less directed the more you condense the funnel of this law to more complex things like biology...until you reach sub-atomic scale where it is just a mess of unpredictability. It's not that the 2nd law 'chooses' things, but going from a state of higher entropy increase (biological organisms) to a lower state seems like the resistor to keep survival a preference so to speak.
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12-5-2013, 11:15 AM | #310 |
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the guido pseudoscience train has left the building.
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12-5-2013, 11:21 AM | #311 | |
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We could also take a similarly silly view in reverse: The "cause" of absolutely anything? The Big Bang. Why did your noodles get overcooked when you were making dinner? Because Big Bang. It provided the logical/physical framework that generated the fundamental elements that forged the galaxies, which whipped together the stars that provided the fuel for planetary accretion, which provided the planet that gave rise to the civilization that invented the fucking stove that just burned your shit. Thanks, Obama. It's silly -- just as silly as saying "evolution has a direction: increasing entropy" or what have you. You could argue that *anything*'s "direction" is increasing entropy, as that's just an inherent attribute of our physical universe. So yes, you have to reduce the scope unless you're cool with meaningless broad-strokes. Evolution doesn't have a "goal" in the sense that it's just a physical process that's taking place like any other chemical/physical process in our universe. Does a body of water have a predetermined goal? Does a rock? Does a gust of wind? These are all emergent properties -- much like evolution -- and arguably the universe itself. "Purpose" is something that is human-defined. Last edited by Reincarnate; 12-5-2013 at 11:26 AM.. |
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12-5-2013, 11:24 AM | #312 |
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everything guides everything!
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12-5-2013, 11:31 AM | #313 |
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everything guidoes everything
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12-5-2013, 11:36 AM | #314 | |
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I like to be pragmatic in these kind of things, helps me see how far I can take an idea before having to try a different perspective. Thanks for that *awaits Guido to change my mind* Last edited by Dynam0; 12-5-2013 at 11:38 AM.. |
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12-5-2013, 11:36 AM | #315 |
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everythan guidos evryshamanaHEEE-hee
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12-5-2013, 02:33 PM | #317 |
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talking about pedophilia on a site where 90% of the users have 10 year old anime girls as their profile picture LoL
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12-5-2013, 02:38 PM | #318 |
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[citation needed]
your avatar is a monkey; following that logic you enjoy the thought of bestiality |
12-5-2013, 02:41 PM | #319 |
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Not even close. Are you seriously going to compare icy's avatar to the monkey avatar? What a joke dude you're a clown.
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12-5-2013, 02:49 PM | #320 |
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lol
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