Techno?

[emccky]

Rai/Hr2/Moogy/whoever... listening to music isn't a ****ing math lesson. I listen to what I think is good, I don't care if I'm listening to something that didn't take as long to make, or isn't as "deep" or follows guidlines from other bands or songs.. if it sounds good to me, i'll listen to it.

[Rewind690]

Sorry i just noticed this thread now, but search up bonkers. Bonkers is electronica from europe, best thing ive ever heard.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Basically me and Kilga came to terms with the fact that I was looking at it from the point of view of a composer, and that it's an entirely different point of view, and that the whole argument is pointless.

To answer your question, Kefit, there are a few things in particular that I enjoy most about music.

First, there's the genius behind the concept of music, the entire concept of the way that expertly-arranged and combined rhythmic frequencies of waves in the air can entirely alter our emotions. The beauty of the concept of music in popular music is generally forgotten in the name of pop culture.

Then there's the brilliance of especially talented musicians who entirely deserve the title of "artist". I find it interesting and compelling when I can listen to a complex piece and think "I never would have thought of that that way, I never would have thought to bring the melody in that direction/delay that note like that/change the theme in that fasion/come up with a percussion fill like that/create that kind of time-signature friction/etc., but it sounds amazing" constantly. There is music that is so in-depth that it's mind-boggling that it was crafted by a human being, music with so many subtleties, so many intricacies, and so much power and/or grace. I find music like this to be amazing. It takes tremendous talent, a brilliant mind, and enormous patience to come up with such a thing, and to keep it all under your control, to produce and master and remaster every last sound--it's awe-inspiring.

Music generally expresses some kind of beauty, and in Autechre's case in particular it's generally the beauty of the unexplored. Most of the best experimental music challenges a person's emotions as much as it challenges their minds. Pieces that make you feel a great emotion that you honestly can't fully describe are something that I enjoy immensely. I can lay in bed stoned with a Boards of Canada CD and it will constantly play with my perception and my feelings, but in a beautiful way. With Autechre it's generally an enormous encompassing beautiful intricate machine of music, mechanically cold and emotionally warm at the same time.

I enjoy music that pushes the boundaries, explores rhythm, and challenges the limits of the human mind and imagination--both the creator and the listener. It takes a great kind of genius to create such music.

That, Kefit, to indulge you, is generally what I enjoy in music, and why.

[xDdRmAnIaCx]

Originally Posted by emccky

Rai/Hr2/Moogy/whoever... listening to music isn't a ****ing math lesson. I listen to what I think is good, I don't care if I'm listening to something that didn't take as long to make, or isn't as "deep" or follows guidlines from other bands or songs.. if it sounds good to me, i'll listen to it.

5 Pages of arguing summed up in a single post.

[dunlop]

Originally Posted by TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons

Basically me and Kilga came to terms with the fact that I was looking at it from the point of view of a composer, and that it's an entirely different point of view, and that the whole argument is pointless.

To answer your question, Kefit, there are a few things in particular that I enjoy most about music.

First, there's the genius behind the concept of music, the entire concept of the way that expertly-arranged and combined rhythmic frequencies of waves in the air can entirely alter our emotions. The beauty of the concept of music in popular music is generally forgotten in the name of pop culture.

Then there's the brilliance of especially talented musicians who entirely deserve the title of "artist". I find it interesting and compelling when I can listen to a complex piece and think "I never would have thought of that that way, I never would have thought to bring the melody in that direction/delay that note like that/change the theme in that fasion/come up with a percussion fill like that/create that kind of time-signature friction/etc., but it sounds amazing" constantly. There is music that is so in-depth that it's mind-boggling that it was crafted by a human being, music with so many subtleties, so many intricacies, and so much power and/or grace. I find music like this to be amazing. It takes tremendous talent, a brilliant mind, and enormous patience to come up with such a thing, and to keep it all under your control, to produce and master and remaster every last sound--it's awe-inspiring.

Music generally expresses some kind of beauty, and in Autechre's case in particular it's generally the beauty of the unexplored. Most of the best experimental music challenges a person's emotions as much as it challenges their minds. Pieces that make you feel a great emotion that you honestly can't fully describe are something that I enjoy immensely. I can lay in bed stoned with a Boards of Canada CD and it will constantly play with my perception and my feelings, but in a beautiful way. With Autechre it's generally an enormous encompassing beautiful intricate machine of music, mechanically cold and emotionally warm at the same time.

I enjoy music that pushes the boundaries, explores rhythm, and challenges the limits of the human mind and imagination--both the creator and the listener. It takes a great kind of genius to create such music.

That, Kefit, to indulge you, is generally what I enjoy in music, and why.

Your last sentence sums up everything. That's why you like music. Sure, I agree with your MTV statement for the most part. That's why it's called Pop Music. It's easy to listen to, and most everyone will enjoy it.

Rai, music is something that you obviously enjoy, and are really into. Many people aren't like this though. Lots of people only listen to "music you find unoriginal" because it is easy to listen to. Say you are at a party, you probably aren't going to hear Autechre, or Aphex Twin. It's because most people haven't heard of them, and also it doesn't fit the situation. Pop music is good because most everyone is familiar with the songs. Everyone can sing to them and have a good time.

Agian, not everyone has the time, or just doesn't want to search online to find out music. Sure they are missing out on a lot of music, but that's their decision.

To call Snapple a complete idiot just because he likes Sandstorm, just isn't right. The song is catchy, and is attractive to most people. That doesn't mean he's an idiot.

I'm sure you(Rai) like some things that would be considered "Pop" or popular.

[MCRenaissance]

I cannot believe that you guys are arguing about music. Music is a universal art form that everyone enjoys but enjoy for different reason but it all sums up to this: GOOD MUSIC IS AN OPINION.period. You cannot say that this song is better than that song because necessarely it isn't true. there is no way to determine wether some song is better than another because it is just in the eye of the beholder. It is all opinion. Please stop the arguing and let the thread go back to the subject on which it started.

[Kilgamayan]

Originally Posted by xDdRmAnIaCx

[Bursurk_Lurk]

hello

i like good music but dislike bad music

bye

[justaguy]

man

i hope you all realize how retarded you look upon arguing gay **** like this. no one wins arguments like this, shutup while you're ahead. all of u r gay.

[YungYung]

Originally Posted by Kilgamayan

Rofl, funny because that was the actual subtitle.

Kilga wins the thread.

[cC@Zz]

limewire is really good for finding anything but it can mess up your computer. Download musicmath it is pretty good. Also if you have a myspace account you can download tons of music from there(i get alot of my music from there). thats about all i use but im sure theres better websites.

[Kefit]

Kilga may win the thread, but we still all have AIDS.

[YungYung]

Originally Posted by Kefit

Kilga may win the thread, but we still all have AIDS.

It's your fault.

[talisman]

draft 7.30 was a terrible album. some other autechre is good. tri repetae is good. there was another one that was good.

[Chromer]

I heard of a guy named Dj Renewman. He has a slew of different songs but despite his EXTREME lack of music skills, there are still some good songs he has. And when I said "extreme", I mean all of it sounds like FL except about 2 songs. XD

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=311020

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Originally Posted by talisman

draft 7.30 was a terrible album.

Yeah it was a such a TERRIBLE thing when they stopped being repetitive man I HATE that

[Kefit]

ya with your AIDS you don't have time for anything repetitive any more :<

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Lame.

[Kefit]

hey I have AIDS too I feel your pain

[justaguy]

i donkey punched the entire country of swaziland and transfered the aids to here