Question about average rank and FFR rank

[Dorby]

So, I've been playing a little bit here and there over the last few months, updating my scores a bit and trying to catch up on the hundreds of songs I haven't ever ranked on.
However, I have noticed that while my grandtotal rank keeps going down, my FFR rank and average rank keep going up?

Example :

As of 9/6/21

FFR Rank : 963
Average Rank : 2,804
Grandtotal Rank : 1,068
Grandtotal : 7,092,614,785

compared to 12/9/2021

FFR Rank : 989
Average Rank : 4,407
Grandtotal Rank : 1,021
Grandtotal : 7,394,867,800

Does anyone have an explanation for this? I have no idea how I'm losing rank despite improving on scores and getting great scores on new songs.

Please help!

[One Winged Angel]

yo Dorby what's good

FFR Rank refers to your placement on the leaderboards, which only factors in your top 15 scores right now. So to make any progress on that front you need to get scores with better AAA equivalency than what you have at the moment.

Average Rank is a metric no one really cares about nowadays with other skill-tracking metrics existing, just the average of all songs in your levelranks like it's always been. Looks like what you listed is your Average Rank Rank (lol) which is your avrank position relative to everyone else. Even if you're improving scores, if you have a lot of unplayeds it's going to be shitty.

Hope ur doing good bud.

[Dorby]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

yo Dorby what's good

FFR Rank refers to your placement on the leaderboards, which only factors in your top 15 scores right now. So to make any progress on that front you need to get scores with better AAA equivalency than what you have at the moment.

Average Rank is a metric no one really cares about nowadays with other skill-tracking metrics existing, just the average of all songs in your levelranks like it's always been. Looks like what you listed is your Average Rank Rank (lol) which is your avrank position relative to everyone else. Even if you're improving scores, if you have a lot of unplayeds it's going to be shitty.

Hope ur doing good bud.

good to hear from you friend - thank you for the explanation! I'm still confused, but oh well. I guess things are just wonky :shrugs:

[One Winged Angel]

I don't want you confused lol

https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...username=Dorby

The top 15 songs you have here are used to calculate your level, which for you is 77.59, and then your rank is where you fall relative to everyone else on the site. To improve this you need to get higher ratings in your top 15 which will improve your level and subsequently you'll pass more people in rank. This is the metric most people care about nowadays.

Are you confused about avrank rank too? That one has stayed the same as it always has, it's just using your actual average rank (which from your levelranks is 5,294.2291 at the moment) and calculating your position relative to everyone else.

If you only had three players with avranks of 10, 250, and 10,000, their avrank ranks would just be 1, 2, 3 in that order. So effectively that but it's pulling from a pool of over 2 million users.

[Dorby]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

I don't want you confused lol

https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...username=Dorby

The top 15 songs you have here are used to calculate your level, which for you is 77.59, and then your rank is where you fall relative to everyone else on the site. To improve this you need to get higher ratings in your top 15 which will improve your level and subsequently you'll pass more people in rank. This is the metric most people care about nowadays.

Are you confused about avrank rank too? That one has stayed the same as it always has, it's just using your actual average rank (which from your levelranks is 5,294.2291 at the moment) and calculating your position relative to everyone else.

If you only had three players with avranks of 10, 250, and 10,000, their avrank ranks would just be 1, 2, 3 in that order. So effectively that but it's pulling from a pool of over 2 million users.

It's confusing to me because I've only gotten better ranks and even played songs I wasn't ranked on and yet my rank is getting higher and higher for some reason.
It's very odd that my rank and average rank keep getting worse despite me scoring very well on the songs I play.

[woker-X]

Iirc, there was a change recently that impacted the Av Rank.
If you look at your public level ranks (or the FC/AAA bars on your profile), the counts now include the tokens. Looking at your token level ranks, it doesn't seem that you have played most of them. That explains the big jump on your Average Rank, since that change happened last month.

[Dorby]

Originally Posted by woker-X

Iirc, there was a change recently that impacted the Av Rank.
If you look at your public level ranks (or the FC/AAA bars on your profile), the counts now include the tokens. Looking at your token level ranks, it doesn't seem that you have played most of them. That explains the big jump on your Average Rank, since that change happened last month.

oh okay, that makes some sense then because it has been within a month or two that I noticed my average rank go from 2k to 4k (and I was thinking how in the hell?!)

[PrawnSkunk]

Yup, average rank was changed in September 2021 to include token songs! Everyone's average rank was also updated, which added thousands of new accounts to the average rank leaderboards.

[Dorby]

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk

Yup, average rank was changed in September 2021 to include token songs! Everyone's average rank was also updated, which added thousands of new accounts to the average rank leaderboards.

appreciate the explanation broseph