TWG XC: Deja Vu

[Panda Express]

lol, Afro used the word Knave.

At work, will be on AIM willing to talk for the next 5 hours. Make conversation, people!

[Viccica]

To those who had a few questions for me.. I pretty much have until 10-ish EST to talk. I'm on AIM.

Again, sorry for my inactivity. Between school, work and moving into the new house I can hardly get on anymore. Lol. But it's dying down and I've got the next few days to myself. So... <3

[u84]

Alright, sacrificing myself for the seer. Seems the only way to attempt some form of alliance. So far, the following people have been seered, all of them being green:

Myself (night 1), BDN and now FictionJunction.

I know this is a ballsy move that some might find a problem with, but it's what we've decided on, so suck it.

As for what to do with these names, obviously either Fiction or BDN COULD be the MW, but not both of them. To prove my name, if I get wolfed tonight, at least then contact the other two names, hopefully they aren't the MW. I'm not telling the psychic to come out to either of them, but I would hope you do to one of us so the seer and the psychic can be united. I will be on AIM for a while and if not, it goes to my cell, so please don't hesitate to talk to me.

[A2P]

u84...you know that you admitting your role in public when you haven't actually seered a wolf yet is a really dumb move when there's no guard right

[A2P]

I mean if you sac yourself to nail a wolf, then I would be okay with it but this...

God damn it.

[tupacodaman]

he's not the seer. the seer has trusted him (oh snap! 9% chance u84's master wolf!) and has told him to come out to the thread. so if he dies it's no big deal because he's most likely human (but of course don't rule out the possibility that he's MW)

[tupacodaman]

ok everyone's on the thread lol post something!


u84:http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...113388&page=17
tupacodaman (7:45:27 PM): nice
tupacodaman (7:45:28 PM): hah
u84 77 (7:45:58 PM): figured I'd let my workings behind the scenes be made clear
tupacodaman (7:46:03 PM): haha
tupacodaman (7:46:05 PM): gocha
tupacodaman (7:46:56 PM): I'm curious to see what happens now
tupacodaman (7:47:02 PM): this is what got me lynched last game
tupacodaman (7:47:04 PM): you know, right?
tupacodaman (7:47:04 PM): lol
u84 77 (7:47:10 PM): yeah
u84 77 (7:47:12 PM): i know
tupacodaman (7:47:15 PM): not my fault though
tupacodaman (7:47:18 PM): fiction's a ****ing idiot
u84 77 (7:47:18 PM): I'm willing to die for the cause, haha
tupacodaman (7:48:24 PM): hm
tupacodaman (7:48:33 PM): so you could all be wolves
tupacodaman (7:48:33 PM): lol
tupacodaman (7:48:37 PM): you bdn fic
tupacodaman (7:48:53 PM): so let's see if there are any counter claims for seer
u84 77 (7:49:08 PM): lol
tupacodaman (7:49:10 PM): however, this is a ballsy enough move that I really doubt you're trying to pull a fast one
u84 77 (7:49:17 PM): yeah that would be a ballsy move, though
u84 77 (7:49:23 PM): wow
u84 77 (7:49:25 PM): ninja'd
tupacodaman (7:49:30 PM): I do that
tupacodaman (7:49:30 PM): lol

[tupacodaman]

to clarify: I respect you fic as a person and player, but I did not approve of your reasons to lynch me that game

[Viccica]

....-.-

Sigh....

[Viccica]

Stupidest move...

...Ever...


If you manage to pull this off I'm going to worship the dirt under your feet.

[u84]

I love the skeptics! Just understand that this way made it so regardless of if I die, the psychic can, if he wishes, to come out to the other two listed greens, thus uniting them with the seer. We need this alliance to form because without someone to tell it to, a psychic's knowledge is ****.

[Syhto]

It isn't necessarily the stupidest move ever. He's human, not the seer (apparently), so why would he be in any real danger, other than by wolves? Wolves already know that everyone around them isn't red, so it doesn't truly make a difference. The wolves could kill him, but he's only human. To me it seems like wolves would be trying to kill the blues if they can. If anything this saves him from a lynch, and for a bit, a wolfing.

Am I the only one that thinks so?

[Syhto]

Although it seems like you're going into this assuming you'll be wolfed. Big mistake if you are human.

[FictionJunction]

if what he says is true, at least we know the seer is alive and that is reassuring enough. The problem is that we're not getting anything from it, and he's not really sacrificing himself.

You do know it only takes a little push and anyone could be labeled a wolf (i.e gun, emerald, etc). What do the wolves have to gain from killing u84? nothing at all. What do they have to gain from killing me? nothing at all, maybe ease of mind. The thing is, their best tactic at the moment is to let us kill each other and it's been working pretty well thusfar.

not a stupid move. It's something

[FictionJunction]

as for tupac, I didn't kill you. I voted for manti last game.

[Makilaz]

Afro: I say look at past games when I was green and still not the most active player. I do my best to keep up, but im not hiding anything with inactivity. I'm human.

I do work a full time job and have a social life. Just because you can spend every waking moment on FFR doesn't mean everyone else can.

Voting u84 for now, since that whole thing seems a bit fishy. The possibility of a mw faking seer'd green is too much to trust that just yet.

[FictionJunction]

adding onto syhto's post, u84's 'ballsy' move gives the humans peace of mind but it gives the wolves a smaller pool to choose from (not good).

We need to get this next lynch right.

[u84]

Just to clarify for some of you, I'm not retarded in doing this. I assure you all that I've gone through every possible result of this and although the risks are great, the rewarding possibilities are much greater and more likely. I know this doesn't much help the humans in regards to keeping the seer or the psychic, for that matter, safe, as now the wolves have a smaller list to choose from. However, three greens can't be wolves, only one, if any. So this gives the humans a bit of leeway concerning who to trust and such.

I know this move is extremely ballsy, but I'm also doing it for another reason. You guys need to ****ing think more. When I first started, almost everyone was involved and made great contributions to their side. And even then people of even before me were saying TWG was on its way out. Original games are a step in the right direction, but without abandoning the mindset of basically hunting and pecking through lynches until either you strike gold or the wolves finally eat you all for being so stupid, this game's still going no where. Just take what I've said as an opportunity; an opportunity to hone your detective skills and fish out what's going on.

TL;DR: **** you, read it.

[u84]

And voting Makilaz because **** you you voted for me (safety).

[Syhto]

Sorry to say Mak but I'm going to be voting for you for now.

amanetora (7:05:29 PM): do you think u84 is human?
"Makilaz" (7:07:32 PM): Yes. That or doing a very good job of staying under
 the radar. What do you think?
amanetora (7:11:09 PM): idk, havent you considered he may be the mw
 himself?
"Makilaz" (7:12:38 PM): I haven't, but I'm open to the possibility
"Makilaz" (7:15:05 PM): What makes you think he is or could be?
amanetora (7:15:58 PM): A gutsy wolf could easily pull this off if he is the
 mw. I don't necessarily think he is, but he definitely could be.
amanetora (7:16:18 PM): it's kind of odd you didn't consider it
"Makilaz" (7:19:01 PM): Hmm. Indeed he could, but I don't think we have
 enough to go on to pursue that though
"Makilaz" (7:19:51 PM): Why's that?
amanetora (7:20:13 PM): because everyone else I've talked to did
"Makilaz" (7:25:11 PM): I dunno if he could pull it off

First off: I asked him these questions before he had even read the thread, and the reveal. It doesn't make sense to me why someone would assume a player is green because they've been under the radar. u84 has hardly said anything. Going with the theory of u84 being mw, mak's first response makes more sense to me. Of course there are different possibilities, but for me right now this seems like a solid vote.

Secondly: Not having read the thread, what do you mean by "not thinking he could pull it off." How does that make sense? How does he pull off being inactive and being mw? IDK. This sudden reveal doesn't make much sense to me, UNTIL...

I consider that mak has been targeted this day early on. Although there aren't enough votes on him yet to really mean anything, this would be a good redherring to throw in to get the views off of you. Being such a gutsy maneuver, people may either assume u84 isn't really green (like me) or assume that u84 is playing at swaying the vote (because he's not green).

It seems complex, but more complex things have happened before. Mak, I aleady had you under suspicion. But this really doesn't sit well with me. I can further explain my reasoning if anyone wants to aim me, or ask me a question here.